Pulsar Modular P450/P455 MDN Plugin Bundle

[jens]

The same goes for the „check your ears if you can't hear it“ people.

If people are offered several differently sounding mixes, then it is NOT an opinion, but a verifiable fact. So if anyone claims there was no difference, then it is not an opinion, but a problem for the one who can't hear it. Checking the ears after checking the setup would be the rationale and correct advice.

That post of yours might have an ounce of both reason&credibility to it if it wasn't for the fact that countless ABX tests prove that self-proclaimed (and well-respected) audio professional often hear things that are in fact non-existant.

*back to ignoring you, as one should*

[Barbarossa]

The difference is probably a placebo

We can all hear that bmanic did a great mix with it.

Yeah, but I have zero doubt that he would have had achieved it just as well without it.

It's fascinating how certain people tend to have no doubts and always are sure about things they simply cannot know, but when they are offered verifiable facts, they ignore them.

[Barbarossa]

The difference is probably a placebo

We can all hear that bmanic did a great mix with it.

All?

[oneshotdeal]

The same goes for the „check your ears if you can't hear it“ people.

If people are offered several differently sounding mixes, then it is NOT an opinion, but a verifiable fact. So if anyone claims there was no difference, then it is not an opinion, but a problem for the one who can't hear it. Checking the ears after checking the setup would be the rationale and correct advice.

Has anyone said they can't hear a difference? Pretty sure the people not impressed all just said they can't hear anything special. The sound one person is looking for might not be what another is looking for.

What this plugin does has been described as "loosening up and separating instruments" as well as "smearing most source material" and both people probably refer to the exact same thing but have perceived it completely differently because of preference or even just the genres they work in.

[Kappa_Beta_Hi-Phi]

Maybe those of us who have been critical should just step off now? I mean why would anyone find any of this problematic? Lol.

Just leave them to the circle jerk.

Clearly all the records made before the Pulsar Modular revolution are inferior - or consider this, maybe no one will, or ever could, notice? Or indeed care.

The earlier analogy made in this thread sums it up: if there is a naked crazy person screaming he's the messiah in a town square he'll soon have 12 naked disciples screaming along with him.

The End.

Couldn't just leave it without getting one last jab in?

No?

[Uncle E]

Couldn't just leave it without getting one last jab in?

No?

[Kappa_Beta_Hi-Phi]

[Barbarossa]

Has anyone said they can't hear a difference?

Now it never happened?
Placebo?
Analog mojo as placebo?
Or what about the inability to hear what it does soundwise?
Or the claim that it was only a EQ or comp was also a fine one.
Or what about the equation of it's mojo sound with hires audio or cable sound?
Did not happen?

The discussion is not full of deaf people's claims? Without a single word about the dozen with/without mixes? Instead the discussions revolved where this plugin's expensive analog sound was suited well or where it may not be suited? Not here. Here is "overpriced", "placebo" place.

[audenso]

Sounds like a record?
It’s a placebo.
Can you hear it?
I’m not impressed.
It’s pretty simple, isn’t it?

[Barbarossa]

Sounds like a record?
It’s a placebo.

If you believe that, then you will never achieve a professional sound, because a mix "sounding like a record" can objectively be described by very specific technical parameters and by creating these specific parameters, you create a sound like a record (not to confuse with a good sounding mix).

[audenso]

Professional sound is not always achieved with expensive hardware or plugins. Ultimately, it boils down to personal preference and choice. With numerous sound effects plugins available, finding one that suits your taste isn't challenging. Some of them might be great, others - nothing but overpriced snake oil. However, not everyone will share your enthusiasm for it. Like any product, there will be both criticism and praise. Expecting universal praise for products you're passionate about is unrealistic. Ultimately, taking things too personally seems pointless to me.

[jens]

Sounds like a record?
It’s a placebo.

If you believe that, then you will never achieve a professional sound, because a mix "sounding like a record" can objectively be described by very specific technical parameters and by creating these specific parameters, you create a sound like a record (not to confuse with a good sounding mix).

Sorry, but that is some of the biggest noob-nonsense I read in a while.

Now it's absolutely clear that you have not the slighest clue what you are talking about and are just jumping on some bandwaggon that you believe might make you look good - hint: it doesn't at all.

[audenso]

Now it's absolutely clear that you have not the slighest clue what you are talking about and are just jumping on some bandwaggon that you believe might make you look good - hint: it doesn't at all.

Absolutely, it's a common phenomenon where individuals, even those with anonymous profiles, project their insecurities onto others when they feel threatened or challenged. It's unfortunate that instead of engaging in constructive dialogue, some resort to belittling others to boost their own self-esteem. Self-esteem can hardly be boosted by purchasing expensive goods.

[SV1080]

I see. So a famous and successful mixer, who built his reputation over more than 2 decades is now so fed up with his life and desperate for money he teams up with the only developer that is evil enough and has the worst ethics of any human in history, plus is the only developer EVER on record to mention his plugins are like hardware.

This Evil duo then create a plugin so expensive it makes MAAT digitals $589 Orange EQ cry with shame. But wait there's more... This plugin actually does nothing, thins out most sources, has a shit compressor, EQ and filters are nothing special, plus there is no mojo.

The really clever part is that the plugin is able to convince not just the susceptible user that their mix sounds better, but also weak minded people who have the misfortune to listen are also tricked by this Evil placebo mind control plugin.

So that is plausible to some of you, and Pulsar Modular making a decent plugin is impossible?

Alrighty then

[Barbarossa]

Sounds like a record?
It’s a placebo.

If you believe that, then you will never achieve a professional sound, because a mix "sounding like a record" can objectively be described by very specific technical parameters and by creating these specific parameters, you create a sound like a record (not to confuse with a good sounding mix).

Sorry, but that is some of the biggest noob-nonsense I read in a while.

Now it's absolutely clear that you have not the slighest clue what you are talking about and are just jumping on some bandwaggon that you believe might make you look good - hint: it doesn't at all.

What bandwagon? I even explained the way I listented to bmanics mix and what I heard.

Do you really believe, we spend thousands of $$ on hw and big electricity bills, if there would not be a ROI compared to plugins?

Your signature:
"Preamps have literally one job: when you turn up the gain, it gets louder." Jamcat, talking about presmp-emulation plugins.

If it is not sarcastic and mocking someone else, then I understand, why you are so ignorant about "sound like a record", or what the P455-plugin is doing.

But there is one thing I do not understand:
If you are in this forum, you are interested in music production, right?
Now: if you cannot hear something what somebody is claiming about a plugin, and many mixes are popping up like never before when a channelstrip was released, why don't you grab tools and helpers and try to make the differences audible to you?

You guys today have all tools you need available, and you do not investigate and research the sound of a mix, but instead you make ignorant claims.

How do you want to grow your listening abilities, if you are ignorant and do not challenge your perceptions? You can't.