klanghabitat Cassiopeia (Saturation Plugin)

[zerocrossing]

I listened to all the youtube demos and I can’t for the life of me tell anything is happening.

When engaged listen for more weight and heft especially in the bottom end and more body in the rest of the spectrum. also some sources will have more focus. its a preamp emu so its all about subtle subjective characteristics. YMMV

Initially I wasnt sold on it. But someone suggested using it with saturation and intensity at around 30%. that's where I could hear the effect and for the track I was working on, where it did help the qualty of the track.

I was just listening to the YouTube demos, and not though awesome headphones… but still. I’m usually pretty good at hearing such things, but I couldn’t for the life of me hear anything changing.

[eytanmich123]

I listened to all the youtube demos and I can’t for the life of me tell anything is happening.

When engaged listen for more weight and heft especially in the bottom end and more body in the rest of the spectrum. also some sources will have more focus. its a preamp emu so its all about subtle subjective characteristics. YMMV

Initially I wasnt sold on it. But someone suggested using it with saturation and intensity at around 30%. that's where I could hear the effect and for the track I was working on, where it did help the qualty of the track.

I was just listening to the YouTube demos, and not though awesome headphones… but still. I’m usually pretty good at hearing such things, but I couldn’t for the life of me hear anything changing.

Saturation and intensity at around 30% will - or will not - make a difference, depending on your incoming input gain (in my case - having gain stages at [-23] to [-24] LUFS - it absolutely makes no difference whatsoever).

@ZC, if you can't hear anything changing MEANINGFULLY, it's probably because it saturates differently than most saturators you're accustomed to. this one absolutely doesn't touch the sides, and adds - subtly but discernibly - "weight and heft" to the mid-section (as noted above. the whole shebang is SUBTLE, and again - only deals with the thickening of the "spinal chord" of your audio).

[zerocrossing]

the whole shebang is SUBTLE, and again - only deals with the thickening of the "spinal chord" of your audio).

Yeah… not hearing that either. I’ve listened to hundreds… maybe even thousands, of demos of similar preamp devices, and I’ve always noticed something. Not this time. I love to use a preamp emulation to beef up “the spinal chord” of my audio, especially on a thinner sounding digital synth, but what I’m saying is I didn’t notice this happening. Not one bit. Maybe it’s happening outside the range of my hearing.

[plexuss]

the whole shebang is SUBTLE, and again - only deals with the thickening of the "spinal chord" of your audio).

Yeah… not hearing that either. I’ve listened to hundreds… maybe even thousands, of demos of similar preamp devices, and I’ve always noticed something. Not this time. I love to use a preamp emulation to beef up “the spinal chord” of my audio, especially on a thinner sounding digital synth, but what I’m saying is I didn’t notice this happening. Not one bit. Maybe it’s happening outside the range of my hearing.

I think Cassiopeia is more effective on mixes, for mastering, than individual tracks. Try it on a track with strong but clear drums and bass. Focus your listening on the bottom end. You might also try a LPF on the output to reduce higher frequency content to make it easier to hear. But if it's so much work to hear it, its probably not worth getting. Like I said I didn't initially hear it but once I did I was sold. But as an example, that Pulsar P42 thing that a lot of kids go crazy for, did nothing for me - I chould hear it but it sounded like crappy distortion to me. So I didn't buy it and moved on. Hence: YMMV

[Michey]

the whole shebang is SUBTLE, and again - only deals with the thickening of the "spinal chord" of your audio).

Yeah… not hearing that either. I’ve listened to hundreds… maybe even thousands, of demos of similar preamp devices, and I’ve always noticed something. Not this time. I love to use a preamp emulation to beef up “the spinal chord” of my audio, especially on a thinner sounding digital synth, but what I’m saying is I didn’t notice this happening. Not one bit. Maybe it’s happening outside the range of my hearing.

I think Cassiopeia is more effective on mixes, for mastering, than individual tracks. Try it on a track with strong but clear drums and bass. Focus your listening on the bottom end.

Agreed.

May I ask with what level do you hit Cassio and do the "bubbles" flicker intensely ? over ever, with headphones, @-24LFUS [~-12dB Peak], saturation@8 and Intensity @ 40% - you hear the (subtle) "spine thickening" AND gain 1.5 to 2.0dB of peak headroom.

if it's so much work to hear it, its probably not worth getting. Like I said I didn't initially hear it but once I did I was sold. But as an example, that Pulsar P42 thing that a lot of kids go crazy for, did nothing for me - I chould hear it but it sounded like crappy distortion to me. So I didn't buy it and moved on. Hence: YMMV

Yep, correct. it's sad to say cause we may feel "ashamed" of not being able to share OTHER people experience.
But not everyone experience (nor expects) the same. FWIW... every saturation I pitched Cassio against, did what you described : there was an OBVIOUS "something". Cassio is obvious but in another manner (providing you feed it the correct amount of gain and nail the sweet spot). it seem to hit different parts of the stereo information. if that manner is not perceptible to you, just move on.

My 0.02

(BTW, I did not buy Cassio, but for other reasons...)

[jbraner]

I just got around to installing this.
So far - I like it on the drum buss (will try it on the main buss next).

I'm not so sure about the "auto output gain" though. It doesn't seem to hold a steady output level - it gets louder and lower.
(maybe I'm misunderstanding it's function)
Also, it sounds a lot better - with more low end - with this engaged.
It seems to hold a steadier volume *without* this engaged (kind of the opposite what I'd expect)

This is not a complaint - just an observation

[anoise]

Version 2 is out with a discount price of 29 €. "The promotion period is set from the 22th of March to the 22th of April 2024."
"This update is free to all owners of Cassiopeia the plugin mk I."
What's new:
-Major graphical optimizations
-Introduction of harmony
-Introduction of Utility functions: A/B , Undo/Redo
-minor bug fixes

https://www.klanghabitat.com/cassiopeia-mk-ii/

[Lesha]

The update is free for the owners of v1.

[anoise]

This plugin sounds and looks great. The auto gain seems to work better also.

[Caine123]

does it make something other saturators cant?