Arturia - Live in 3 Days

[ecasasmusic2]

I'm still annoyed that they aren't listing the specs of the thing. It's a keyboard with a built in computer for live use, it has RAM and a storage drive, it has specs.

One thing that "almost" sold me on Push 3 was that they made it upgradable, this has no mention of that, and I haven't forgotten the Origin. https://www.soundonsound.com/reviews/ar ... n-keyboard

They give the specs here

https://support.arturia.com/hc/en-us/ar ... MIDI-chart

It's a 64 bit ARM processor with 6 cores running at 1.8GHZ. It has 4GB of RAM and 32GB of storage

That would not be a Raspberry PI. It sounds more like an embedded Windows 11 embedded system, running on an off the shelf motherboard system

That would make sense for Arturia as they wouldn't have to port anything and could just use the Windows software they already have

From a hardware design perspective that would be easy to implement as they could use the innards from one of their existing Audi Fuse interfaces for the Audio and MIDI Up and just send that to the motherboard via USB. Those have a USB hub also just like on the back of the Astro Lab. The same would go for the keyboard and knobs. That is exactly what Korg does on Kronos and Nautilis only they run a custom Linux variant. Those are different than the Raspberry Pi based Korg Wavestate and Opsix as it would need more horse power

The Astrolab also runs Linux inside, according to several reviews on the internet.

[BBFG#]

I'm still annoyed that they aren't listing the specs of the thing. It's a keyboard with a built in computer for live use, it has RAM and a storage drive, it has specs.

One thing that "almost" sold me on Push 3 was that they made it upgradable, this has no mention of that, and I haven't forgotten the Origin. https://www.soundonsound.com/reviews/ar ... n-keyboard

They give the specs here

https://support.arturia.com/hc/en-us/ar ... MIDI-chart

It's a 64 bit ARM processor with 6 cores running at 1.8GHZ. It has 4GB of RAM and 32GB of storage

That would not be a Raspberry PI. It sounds more like an embedded Windows 11 embedded system, running on an off the shelf motherboard system

That would make sense for Arturia as they wouldn't have to port anything and could just use the Windows software they already have

From a hardware design perspective that would be easy to implement as they could use the innards from one of their existing Audi Fuse interfaces for the Audio and MIDI Up and just send that to the motherboard via USB. Those have a USB hub also just like on the back of the Astro Lab. The same would go for the keyboard and knobs. That is exactly what Korg does on Kronos and Nautilis only they run a custom Linux variant. Those are different than the Raspberry Pi based Korg Wavestate and Opsix as it would need more horse power

The Astrolab also runs Linux inside, according to several reviews on the internet.

Well that improves the specs.
Still, in these days, anything less than 2.5ghz-8c-16gb is not future worthy.

[IvyBirds]

The Astrolab also runs Linux inside, according to several reviews on the internet.

Sure but what are they basing that on? Looppop also said it has less memory than Arturia states

[machinesworking]

Still, in these days, anything less than 2.5ghz-8c-16gb is not future worthy.

I think you're forgetting it only has to run two instances of Arturia plugins in likely a dedicated Linux distribution. IMO the 32GB drive is more of a problem than the CPU, but maybe without GUIs and with the very likely shared engines that Arturia analog synths have it's more than enough for future synths, that's my big question.

[BBFG#]

The Astrolab also runs Linux inside, according to several reviews on the internet.

Sure but what are they basing that on? Looppop also said it has less memory than Arturia states

I believe most modern keyboards with an operating system use Linux or (non-Apple) Unix now - don't they?

[VitaminD]

Still, in these days, anything less than 2.5ghz-8c-16gb is not future worthy.

I think you're forgetting it only has to run two instances of Arturia plugins in likely a dedicated Linux distribution. IMO the 32GB drive is more of a problem than the CPU, but maybe without GUIs and with the very likely shared engines that Arturia analog synths have it's more than enough for future synths, that's my big question.

Yes I mean it has the Pigments engine inside and can run that already. So it is plenty decent. 8 voices max though. per part. So 16 total since there are 2 parts available.

Others like the Pro5 and the CS-80 are 16 per part.

https://dl.arturia.net/products/astrola ... 0_0_EN.pdf Section 4.3 shows max poly per engine.

It seems capable. I doubt it is going to be something they will upgrade like a computer though. More realistic is there will be a mk 2 and a mk3 much later, if mk1 sells, that have enhanced performance and features.

But this isn't trying to replace your computer entirely. It's just trying to replace your computer in a performance environment where you will be playing a single patch at a given moment. Maybe 2 if you use the looper or split.

It's not trying to be a Push playing 20 parts simultaneously. So the hardware specs seem ok for the given use case.

[IvyBirds]

The Astrolab also runs Linux inside, according to several reviews on the internet.

Sure but what are they basing that on? Looppop also said it has less memory than Arturia states

I believe most modern keyboards with an operating system use Linux or (non-Apple) Unix now - don't they?

Most modern Keyboards are not a port of an existing software product that is going 1:1 directly to hardware

[BBFG#]

The Astrolab also runs Linux inside, according to several reviews on the internet.

Sure but what are they basing that on? Looppop also said it has less memory than Arturia states

I believe most modern keyboards with an operating system use Linux or (non-Apple) Unix now - don't they?

Most modern Keyboards are not a port of an existing software product that is going 1:1 directly to hardware

Exactly

[havran]

Hmm, if they are using Bakelite for the end-caps, I wonder if sometime they will offer special-edition replacement end-caps in retro Bakelite colors, maybe even with speckles.

As for the main chassis being white, maybe Arturia had colored stage-lights in mind when they made that decision.

[VitaminD]

Arturia just loves white keyboards. All the way from their very first controllers. I think it is a french design element perhaps?

[machinesworking]

The Astrolab also runs Linux inside, according to several reviews on the internet.

Sure but what are they basing that on? Looppop also said it has less memory than Arturia states

I believe most modern keyboards with an operating system use Linux or (non-Apple) Unix now - don't they?

Most modern Keyboards are not a port of an existing software product that is going 1:1 directly to hardware

Exactly

We have examples of this, and none of them are running Windows, honestly I don’t get why any of you think this would be the case? MPC 2 runs its own dedicated Linux, is compatible with the VST version and loads most newly released Air plugins in the hardware, they are 100% compatible with their VST/AU software versions . The company that funded KVR for years Muse Research made Receptor that ran on their own version of Linux and hosted hundreds of VSTs… I’m actually trying to think of any of the ports of software to hardware that ran Windows and I can’t think of one?
I mean unless Aruria’s previous attempt at this the Origin , ran Windows, I’m not sure where you all are coming up with this?

[AnalogGuy1]

Hopefully it will be 'game changing'.

I think it will be a jaw dropping quantum leap

Isn't a quantum the smallest possible amount of change possible, like quantum electronics, quantum energy levels, quantum computing? It means really, really tiny, not really, really big.

[Hanz Meyzer]

I agree that V-Collection should be included at this price, or the price lower, and also all parameters editable on the device, if you want that. Some shift or step thru functionality. How it is now, completely uninteresting for me at least.

[mdx4ever]

Keybeds on Arturia are historically bad. Broken keys, sponge action, etc;
Wish Arturia would source their keybeds from Fatar instead of trying to invent their own…
No poly aftertouch and no midi 2 at this price point in 2024, really?! It supposed to be performance keyboard….

[BBFG#]

We have the Essential 88 and the keyboard is solid. There are a couple of things I wish were better, but the feel is not bad overall. I blame Sweetwater for telling me it has aftertouch when it does not, the key length is a touch short and the midi driver never really updates completely. but overall much better than expected and is holding up well.