Many many my friend...audiouser720 wrote: Mon May 06, 2024 3:19 pm I agree with the above comments, but where are the Jean-Michel Jarres in this World of perfect and accessible tools?
The Legend HZ by Synapse Audio now available!
- KVRAF
- 4066 posts since 3 Jul, 2022
- KVRAF
- 12172 posts since 7 Sep, 2006 from Roseville, CA
I have a roomful of analog synths with a few digital synths and more software synths than I can count. I can't hear a difference between any of them, but I can smell the difference in the sound and that is how I guide all of my sound design decisions. Mmmmmmmmm, that envelope smells perfect.....
Oh wait, what the hell is this thread about again? Oh yeah, the new Synapse synth, duh. I'll probably buy the upgrade from Legend v1 at some point, but I'm in no hurry. I do wish Synapse offered a loyalty discount where the discount is increased with the more products you've purchased from them, but $79 is certainly a fair upgrade price for that new feature set.
Oh wait, what the hell is this thread about again? Oh yeah, the new Synapse synth, duh. I'll probably buy the upgrade from Legend v1 at some point, but I'm in no hurry. I do wish Synapse offered a loyalty discount where the discount is increased with the more products you've purchased from them, but $79 is certainly a fair upgrade price for that new feature set.
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- KVRAF
- 4066 posts since 3 Jul, 2022
Well, I just played with it about 1 hour and my conclusion is clear and definitive. It sounds awesome...cryophonik wrote: Mon May 06, 2024 3:41 pm I have a roomful of analog synths with a few digital synths and more software synths than I can count. I can't hear a difference between any of them, but I can smell the difference in the sound and that is how I guide all of my sound design decisions. Mmmmmmmmm, that envelope smells perfect.....
Oh wait, what the hell is this thread about again? Oh yeah, the new Synapse synth, duh. I'll probably buy the upgrade from Legend v1 at some point, but I'm in no hurry. I do wish Synapse offered a loyalty discount where the discount is increased with the more products you've purchased from them, but $79 is certainly a fair upgrade price for that new feature set.![]()
I am not particularly a VA fan (or more like not at all) but oh my, this sound is creamy...
- KVRist
- 229 posts since 12 Jul, 2015
Finally, a Diva competitor. I like how easy it is to get great sounding analog sounds out of Legend HZ.
Dune should be compared with Zebra. Zebralette is already a great synth and Zebra 3 will crush the competition for at least 5 years.
Dune should be compared with Zebra. Zebralette is already a great synth and Zebra 3 will crush the competition for at least 5 years.
- KVRAF
- 18341 posts since 26 Jun, 2006 from San Francisco Bay Area
I think it’s down to how deeply you inhale when you sniff at that cork.kmonkey wrote: Mon May 06, 2024 4:44 amYeah this one strikes me as well. "buildup envelope" hahahaha. 2 years from now a synth is released and the KVR geniuses "Does it have a buildup envelope?"
I don't understand why people are so picky about the Dune vs this one. It's an entirely different workflow and feature set. Just a stupid debate.
As if someone is trying to convince me that two people are the same because both have two eyes therefore one is overlapping with the other and shouldn't exist or is less capable.
Can we not enjoy this release by Richard? If there are rare times to enjoy the amazing release then this is the one (so was Dune).
But this whole debate can be ended with one word. Feedback. Dune has no feedback function, and it’s a quite effective way to get a cool sound. It affects all the other parameters and how the sound ends up. Maybe you don’t want it, but if you do, it’s great.
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- KVRAF
- 4066 posts since 3 Jul, 2022
Well I beg to differTeksonik wrote: Mon May 06, 2024 1:04 pmI own dozens of top tier synths including Avenger 2 which is more feature rich than DUNE 3 but I still prefer DUNE's core sound. It is my go to synth for many duties including analog style patches. Avenger 2 is not far behind and has become one of my favorite synths to patch.
All the synths I use on a daily basis have strong character which is why I own them in the first place. Legend HZ is a great synth but will likely never get used in a project here. It will reside in a folder I call "museum" along with all the other simple analog synths. Sometimes I'll take one off the shelf, dust it off, and have a patch and play session but they rarely if ever get used in a project.Jac459 wrote: Mon May 06, 2024 12:38 amIf you have already quite a few synths, I really doubt that a "generalist synth" will be as appealing than Legend HZ which has a strong character.
But do you need 100 different analog emulations that all have the same range of sounds?Jac459 wrote: Mon May 06, 2024 12:38 ambut the point is that you don't need 100 of generalist synths.
What you were saying is exactly what I felt with The Legend. If you are not a big fan of VA, it is not that appealing (still sounds great for specific sounds).
But The Legend HZ is a whole different beast.
It has 6 oscillators and 4 MSEG and and and ... It has 2 LFO (osc3 and osc6) that are audio-rate. You basically have audio rate modulation on an old school synth.
How cool is that ? (It is a rhetorical question the answer is : it is freaking cool). You can audio-rate modulate the frequence of your filter cutoff! It sounds awesome.
Even modern synth does not have always that (Current for example doesn't have it).
And then the Unison sounds really really great. Out of the box....
- KVRAF
- 4066 posts since 3 Jul, 2022
5 years I don't know but it is indeed quite scary (for the competition).a9k1tp wrote: Mon May 06, 2024 4:31 pm Finally, a Diva competitor. I like how easy it is to get great sounding analog sounds out of Legend HZ.
Dune should be compared with Zebra. Zebralette is already a great synth and Zebra 3 will crush the competition for at least 5 years.
- KVRAF
- 4066 posts since 3 Jul, 2022
As for diva I don't know. Diva is a kind of meta VA. Its super power is to emulate many VA, and mix VA.a9k1tp wrote: Mon May 06, 2024 4:31 pm Finally, a Diva competitor. I like how easy it is to get great sounding analog sounds out of Legend HZ.
Dune should be compared with Zebra. Zebralette is already a great synth and Zebra 3 will crush the competition for at least 5 years.
Legend HZ is a different philosophy. It is just a VA but on 2 kg steroids.
If it was classic American cars, diva would be one impala transformable in charger, transformable in Mustang.
HZ is just a Mustang but with 8 modern zero-lag turbos in it and ceramic brakes.
- KVRAF
- 20664 posts since 22 Nov, 2000 from Southern California
The Legend HZ is a Porsche 911 GT1 and Diva is James Bond's Goldfinger Aston Martin DB5.
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- KVRAF
- 2508 posts since 24 Jul, 2017
Sounds logicalUncle E wrote: Mon May 06, 2024 5:46 pm The Legend HZ is a Porsche 911 GT1 and Diva is James Bond's Goldfinger Aston Martin DB5.
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- KVRian
- 1355 posts since 24 Sep, 2021
I think there is way too much pink glass and bias here. Zebra HZ doesnt come near anymore to Dune 3.6 in terms of features and sound and fx and even CPU usage id say. Zebra 3 maybe will (except CPU use), but Dune 3 has also sample import.a9k1tp wrote: Mon May 06, 2024 4:31 pm Finally, a Diva competitor. I like how easy it is to get great sounding analog sounds out of Legend HZ.
Dune should be compared with Zebra. Zebralette is already a great synth and Zebra 3 will crush the competition for at least 5 years.
- KVRAF
- 20664 posts since 22 Nov, 2000 from Southern California
It's an unnecessary comparison, anyway, and certainly OT for this thread. Hans Zimmer wouldn't be messing with The Legend HZ if it didn't carve out its own space (he doesn't need the money, after all).
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- 3197 posts since 23 Jan, 2022
he doesn't need the money, but he wants more moneyUncle E wrote: Mon May 06, 2024 6:09 pm It's an unnecessary comparison, anyway, and certainly OT for this thread. Hans Zimmer wouldn't be messing with The Legend HZ if it didn't carve out its own space (he doesn't need the money, after all).
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