Logic Pro 11 is announced

[jonljacobi]

I wonder what happens regarding the copyright ownership of songs helped written with the virtual session players, because you need to literally be a human to create copyright ownership of material. As far as I know, you can't copyright the outputs your text prompts produced in Udio etc. So I wonder what the case is here?

There is a whole can of worms being opened possibly regarding potential liabilities of using Logic Pro 11 as your DAW, simply because the option of a virtual session player exists in it. What if someone steals your song, you take them to court, and it's thrown out because they showed you created it in a program that creates the song for you via AI? I've seen crazier things so..

It really feels like the virtual session player isn't exactly the same thing as hiring an actual session player. In my opinion we are already approaching this sort of stuff eventually getting legally tested with generative MIDI stuff like Scaler, Ableton, etc. I've been waiting for the copyright infringement lawsuit to pop up where the defendant claims "I didn't steal it, I Scaler generated the progression for me, sue them!"

I am not an expert or authority on the subject matter, just my immediate thoughts because the AI seems to be the flagship of the announcement, and it seems a step above the threshold of what we've seen used so far in DAWs.

As far as I know and have read, Apple relinquishes any claims to music created using Logic or any of the sounds/samples/etc. included. This has come up before. Whether you'll feel good about it, is another matter.

And as far as copyrights are concerned, there's a huge gap between what's supposed to happen and what does. If you submit it with you name on it, and it doesn't conflict, you pretty much are home free.

[jonljacobi]

As to the players... I've found Drummer occasionally useful, but always to get an idea what someone else might play. It's not real great with my stuff as it's generally a bit unusual rhythmically. But it does come up with an interesting bit once in a while.

It's also quite nice for learning how to employ the various drums and percussion in the kits to more realistic effect.

I'm guessing the same will hold for the new ones.

[machinesworking]

Logic’s dongle price? What a f**king stupid thing to write. Not bitterness, no, just f**king bullshitness.

The only redeeming part about this character is his constant walls of text make me feel less insecure about my own wordiness.

[N 4 LIFE]

https://www.apple.com/uk/newsroom/2024/ ... -features/

I can't afford to buy a whole new computer to upgrade Logic this time around. Don't really need more features anyway.
Has anyone else seen that horrid commercial for Logic on iPad where they destroy all the traditional instruments including small animals and stuff splatting with their eyes popping out? After the destruction, there is a gloat about Logic for iPad. Damn, it's like Apple wants to keep everyone apart from each other, no working with other musicians, just YOU and APPLE, no humans needed. Very cold and alarming.

[qtheerearranger]

https://www.apple.com/uk/newsroom/2024/ ... -features/

I can't afford to buy a whole new computer to upgrade Logic this time around. Don't really need more features anyway.
Has anyone else seen that horrid commercial for Logic on iPad where they destroy all the traditional instruments including small animals and stuff splatting with their eyes popping out? After the destruction, there is a gloat about Logic for iPad. Damn, it's like Apple wants to keep everyone apart from each other, no working with other musicians, just YOU and APPLE, no humans needed. Very cold and alarming.

i mean lets wait to see how much ai it is and how good it is. i see it as being glorified apple loops that you will have most people play out in a year or two in their own music before its the same sounds over and over.

[N 4 LIFE]

Here is the video I was speaking of a few posts back. It really makes me mad. What do the rest of you think?

[machinesworking]

Here is the video I was speaking of a few posts back. It really makes me mad. What do the rest of you think?

You're reading too much into an ad. It's pretty much the equivalent of every ad for Samplers I've ever seen.

[parma]

It is unintentionally rather dystopic. Its obvious what they were going for but, boy, that subtext is there if you want to see it.

[Trensharo]

i mean lets wait to see how much ai it is and how good it is. i see it as being glorified apple loops that you will have most people play out in a year or two in their own music before its the same sounds over and over.

Even if you don't get the AI, the instruments themselves should be useful - assuming you don't have better already.

The Player Tracks are likely going to allow for you to access the performance as MIDI, so I think most producers are going to be tweaking that stuff before committing anyway. Many will be generating the MIDI to use on different instrument tracks.

I don't really care about that as long as the music sounds good and the productions are suitably differentiated.

If everything sounds like a remix of the same song, or like someone has sampled the same thing in an obvious way, then it's obviously going to be a problem and the use of these players is going to quickly morph into a noob trap.

It is unintentionally rather dystopic. Its obvious what they were going for but, boy, that subtext is there if you want to see it.

Weird way to read into that.

I think the inference that can be drawn from it just tends to piss off a certain small section of boomers. Emulations, Modelling and Sampling has gotten so good over the years.

I think the commercial would have hit better if it were for a MacBook rather than an iPad, though. Clearly, the software for iPad is a lot better than it ever has been, but the ecosystem for plug-ins and instruments available on it isn't really at Desktop PC/Mac Levels... yet.

[apoclypse]

Here is the video I was speaking of a few posts back. It really makes me mad. What do the rest of you think?

I don’t care?

[parma]

It is unintentionally rather dystopic. Its obvious what they were going for but, boy, that subtext is there if you want to see it.

I think the inference that can be drawn from it just tends to piss off a certain small section of boomers. Emulations, Modelling and Sampling has gotten so good over the years.

Yes, that's the inference they intended. I get that. But if you can't see why depicting smooshing all sorts of cherished noise makers from the past into the shiny new slab of tech could be seen as a bit dystopic, well, I've got a new truck that you're gonna love.

[ChanceB]

It’s an iPad add not a Logic add,it was depicting things being smashed or condensed in to the iPad,including instruments in reference to Logic I suppose but also art supplies,arcade games,cameras,music playback devices,Angry Birds figurines,emojis etc.

[N 4 LIFE]

[idontpost]

the ad is completely fine

[andypryce]

https://www.theverge.com/2024/5/9/24153 ... ng-apology