GForce impOSCar 3 is here
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Echoes in the Attic Echoes in the Attic https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=180417
- KVRAF
- 11183 posts since 12 May, 2008
Sweet. Purchased immediately.
Gotta say I'm very surprised they didn't implement the x-mod system here. The ob-x didn't have that many modulatable parameters and they used it there. But imposcar has tons of oscillator controls that could benefit from more modulation sources plus the dual filter controls as well. So many ways to tweak the sound I would have thought x-mod would be perfect here.
Gotta say I'm very surprised they didn't implement the x-mod system here. The ob-x didn't have that many modulatable parameters and they used it there. But imposcar has tons of oscillator controls that could benefit from more modulation sources plus the dual filter controls as well. So many ways to tweak the sound I would have thought x-mod would be perfect here.
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- KVRist
- 434 posts since 27 Nov, 2016
totally agree - but haven't convinced myself yet the extra cost (for me) is worth it for the upgrade from the Legend to Legend HZ - as the Legend sounds lush anyway
the Imposcar 3 adds a huge amount for a very reasonable upgrade price
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vitocorleone123 vitocorleone123 https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=333504
- KVRAF
- 2046 posts since 30 Jun, 2014 from Pacific NW
It was an easy choice for me: impOSCar 3 is the better sounding synth, and, honestly, even sounds more "analog" with the volume+drive combo.
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vitocorleone123 vitocorleone123 https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=333504
- KVRAF
- 2046 posts since 30 Jun, 2014 from Pacific NW
Pretty sure it's because it's architected like analog not digital. That is, the higher the volume, the more the saturation/distortion. +24db would probably be distorted.bmanic wrote: ↑Tue May 14, 2024 1:12 pm I always loved ImpOSCar 2 so this was an instant upgrade!
I'm quite sad that they didn't fix the really bad gain staging though. Why on earth doesn't the main Volume control have at least +24dB of positive gain available? You are literally forced to use the filter drive at quite high amounts to have any hope of reaching normal output levels. You can see this in every single preset on the damn thing too..
Why on earth don't they allow for easy access to the very interesting sound of the filter with drive at minimal? Such a huge yet simple miss in my opinion. Oh well.. just need to add another gain plugin after it so it's not a massive deal but it IS annoying.
Also, I think the synth is too loud by default and wish you could lock the volume so I can lock it lower.
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- KVRian
- 1060 posts since 24 Sep, 2021
My farts are analog too. Sounds very Moog Model D like with drive knob.
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- KVRAF
- 2131 posts since 16 Apr, 2004 from between my ears
but are they loud enough?Lbdunequest wrote: ↑Tue May 14, 2024 7:50 pm My farts are analog too. Sounds very Moog Model D like with drive knob.
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- KVRAF
- 2331 posts since 24 Jul, 2017
And creamy?JamminFool wrote: ↑Tue May 14, 2024 8:16 pmbut are they loud enough?Lbdunequest wrote: ↑Tue May 14, 2024 7:50 pm My farts are analog too. Sounds very Moog Model D like with drive knob.
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- KVRian
- 943 posts since 8 Jan, 2022
In terms of value then it's ImpOscar 3 hands down.Buckster wrote: ↑Tue May 14, 2024 6:45 pmtotally agree - but haven't convinced myself yet the extra cost (for me) is worth it for the upgrade from the Legend to Legend HZ - as the Legend sounds lush anyway
the Imposcar 3 adds a huge amount for a very reasonable upgrade price
It's arguably a more substantial upgrade than the Legend HZ is over the Legend.
The wavetable/LFO editor adds a ton of depth and the UI improvements are fantastic. Reverb is also really lovely.
The price is pretty steep for what you get with the Legend HZ. If they were equally priced it would be a much harder call since they're both very different.
The Legend HZ really does sound amazing though.
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- KVRian
- 1180 posts since 7 Dec, 2017
Do they add depth and weight? Maybe better check the underwear then.ralfrobert wrote: ↑Tue May 14, 2024 8:23 pmAnd creamy?JamminFool wrote: ↑Tue May 14, 2024 8:16 pmbut are they loud enough?Lbdunequest wrote: ↑Tue May 14, 2024 7:50 pm My farts are analog too. Sounds very Moog Model D like with drive knob.
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- KVRAF
- 8154 posts since 24 May, 2002 from Tutukaka, New Zealand
I'll have a look at it but it's probably not an instabuy. Wavetables is prolly the worst thing they could add to it imo, not impressed by any wavetable synth I've ever heard. New presets - good. New preset browser etc - couldn't really care less about fluff like that. New reverb - kinda nice but I'm extremely unlikely to use any inbuilt synth reverb. What other stuff is in there that's sonically useful? Sounds a bit like they're taking it away from what is legendary about OSCars and even at 30 squids...meh. Shame, cos imposcar is one of my goto VSTi. GForce have lost my interest recent years, sadly. Nothing they released has been to my tastes since imposcar2.
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thecontrolcentre thecontrolcentre https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=76240
- KVRAF
- 35864 posts since 27 Jul, 2005 from the wilds of wanny
Instabuy for me. ImpOSCar has been a favorite "analog" vsti for some time now. A welcome upgrade and not too pricey considering all the new features.
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- KVRian
- 1405 posts since 25 Jul, 2009
I also bought it instantly.Echoes in the Attic wrote: ↑Tue May 14, 2024 6:27 pm Sweet. Purchased immediately.
Gotta say I'm very surprised they didn't implement the x-mod system here. The ob-x didn't have that many modulatable parameters and they used it there. But imposcar has tons of oscillator controls that could benefit from more modulation sources plus the dual filter controls as well. So many ways to tweak the sound I would have thought x-mod would be perfect here.
A bit disappointing about the lack of X-mods , but I'm sure I'll love it when I dig into it.
Maybe X-mods will be something to look forward to for impOSCar 4.
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- KVRian
- 1405 posts since 25 Jul, 2009
A bit of a head game. Turn the drive all the way down and the sound completely disappears.bmanic wrote: ↑Tue May 14, 2024 1:12 pm I always loved ImpOSCar 2 so this was an instant upgrade!
I'm quite sad that they didn't fix the really bad gain staging though. Why on earth doesn't the main Volume control have at least +24dB of positive gain available? You are literally forced to use the filter drive at quite high amounts to have any hope of reaching normal output levels. You can see this in every single preset on the damn thing too..
Why on earth don't they allow for easy access to the very interesting sound of the filter with drive at minimal? Such a huge yet simple miss in my opinion. Oh well.. just need to add another gain plugin after it so it's not a massive deal but it IS annoying.
Seems like there should be a baseline or default value, and then drive should boost it up from there.
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Korg Supporter Korg Supporter https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=386399
- KVRian
- 1321 posts since 4 Oct, 2016
Here is what the support team told me: "We deliberately kept XMods off impOSCar3, believing it to be chaotic enough already! It certainly would add a pretty insane layer of complexity above the aux mod system already in place."felis wrote: ↑Tue May 14, 2024 9:24 pmI also bought it instantly.Echoes in the Attic wrote: ↑Tue May 14, 2024 6:27 pm Sweet. Purchased immediately.
Gotta say I'm very surprised they didn't implement the x-mod system here. The ob-x didn't have that many modulatable parameters and they used it there. But imposcar has tons of oscillator controls that could benefit from more modulation sources plus the dual filter controls as well. So many ways to tweak the sound I would have thought x-mod would be perfect here.
A bit disappointing about the lack of X-mods , but I'm sure I'll love it when I dig into it.
Maybe X-mods will be something to look forward to for impOSCar 4.