One Synth Challenge #183: AudiblePlanets by Greg Recco (ZioMau Wins!)

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Did you make this with MIDI, and bounce to audio to make samples?

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MadMcMan wrote: Sun May 12, 2024 5:12 pm https://soundcloud.com/madmcman/orbitronik-waves
Here's my OSC track made in Bitwig with 21copies of Audible Planets making all the sounds.

Did you make this with MIDI, and bounce to audio to make samples?

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He will have done it with MIDI and then rendered the complete project out to a stereo master and uploaded that to SoundCloud.

Rendering MIDI to samples is not allowed, you can however render a complete track (ie from time 0.0 to end) as a stem track (ie audio) but still within the project in order to save on cpu. AKA freezing, so that the MIDI is then not processed by the synth again.

The usual thing people do wrong is to create a single kick on their MIDI editor (piano roll or whatever), then feed that to the synth and save that resulting waveform (ie "sample") and then cut and paste that audio clip down the time line to create the kick drum track. Usually done to avoid any triggering/phase etc inconsistencies due to the synth design. This is just not allowed at all, and if their are inconsistencies in the kick sound, you have to live with it.

Also, in this synth where the is a sampler, you can not use this sampler either. The other rule about samples kicks in when it's a wavetable synth, and again, you are not allowed to import a sound as a wavetable and then simply play that back - that's basically sampling! You can use single cycle waveforms in these synths to impart interesting and useful nuances into the calculated sound.

Hope some of that makes sense.

dB

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loubaker wrote: Sun May 12, 2024 7:52 pm Did you make this with MIDI, and bounce to audio to make samples?
He used no samples. To synthesize a snare drum you usually take a sin wave and pitch shift it down along with using a bit of noise. In this synth the noise source is hiding in the corner on the Aux page. Kick drum is similar but deeper and less/no noise. There are many things you can do make it metallic. With FM you can get metallic by changing the fine tune between modulators/operators (oscillators) or you can use a really fast delay time or the ring modulator. Also waveshaper I guess.

Lots of people synthesize excellent percussion in the OSC.

I am loving my own percussion this month btw. Closest to Skinny Puppy I've ever come.

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loubaker wrote: Sun May 12, 2024 7:52 pm Did you make this with MIDI, and bounce to audio to make samples?
its all midi, i didn't even freeze any tracks at the end, just lived with the stuttering whilst i finalised a few things.

as others have said thankfully AUX has noise allowing some easier drum sounds.

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Reaper 5.1
17 instances AudiblePlanets
DC filter, ReaEq, Mackity, Dragonfly Room, Buttercup, Desk4, Fircomp, Acceleration 2, loudmax, rs met multi analyser, Youlean, Span

Minus delay, distance, air3, utility clone, MV2, side dull , wider, zhighpass

No AuX noise OsC was used in the creation
All sounds as always from Init :)
https://soundcloud.com/eauson/kvr-osc-auplan
Last edited by Eauson on Fri May 17, 2024 2:16 am, edited 3 times in total.
Man is least himself when he talks in the first person. Give him a mask, and he'll show you his true face

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borgcopyeditor wrote: Fri May 03, 2024 3:32 pm Dev here. Thanks for your interest in the plugin! I learned about this being the challenge this month as I was squashing an embarrassing bug I introduced a few days ago: Murphy's Law, I guess. I've pushed a new version here

That should at least allow you to select different waveshaper function types and different compressor types on the Effects page. I'm sorry to hear about UI issues in Bitwig. I've been testing with Logic, Live, and Reaper. In the DAWs I'm familiar with, it's always possible to run the plugin without the GUI window running once you've set it up how you'd like. This might be a good idea if you're running multiple instances at once.

Best of luck.

EDIT: Also, feel free to report any issues here and if I can fix them quickly, I'll try to do so!
I'm pretty desperate because I just can't find a solution to the problem I have with the synth when I use more than 8 instances. When I load too many tracks of the synth, I get the following message:

"The large number of plugins in this project means you are close to running out of graphics recources (GDI handles). Please remove some plugins from the projekt to avoid crashes."

A further explanation can be found here: https://support.image-line.com/action/k ... e/?ans=685

I can live with a crash, I think to myself. The project is saved automatically every 5 minutes. But the problem is much more serious. If the program crashes, which fortunately only happened once, or I save it at the end, I simply can't load it again afterwards. FL Studio hangs during the loading process without telling me why.

If I load an earlier version with fewer tracks, it works, but not always. Sometimes like this, sometimes like this.

I tried to trick it a bit by deleting the VST3, opening the project (which it does without any problems!) and then putting the synth back into the folder. After the plugin scan, I can use the synth again. Unfortunately, all the linked automations are lost, which is only half the solution, as I have basically automated every single instance with various, sometimes complex modulations.

I was very happy with the result yesterday, but I can now only use one version in which half of it is missing.

ADDENDUM!


Because the problem has left me no peace and I really like the synth, I went in search of a solution.

And I found one. I have to say, however, that this required an intervention in the system (Windows), which can lead to undesirable side effects such as crashes. Please do this at your own risk and don't hold me responsible if something goes wrong. If you are unsure, don't do it!!!

You can find instructions here (a translator in your browser is helpful if you don't understand German ;): https://support.vertigis.com/hc/de/arti ... I-Objekten

Of course I hope AudiblePlanets can offer a more elegant solution by the time they read this, but for now it works for me.

So, weiter machen... :phones:
Last edited by Viroo on Sat May 18, 2024 2:55 am, edited 1 time in total.

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This is my first test with AudiblePlanets

https://soundcloud.com/user-221952934-5 ... al_sharing

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https://soundcloud.com/anotherjaysherma ... al_sharing
This is my submission.
KVR OSC183 Audible Planets
61 instances of Reaper 7.1
Lots of ReEQ, Raum, ReaLimit, OTT.
Some A1TriggerGate, kiloheartz transient shaper, Supermassive Valhalla, CocoaDelay. Bit of sidechain with TDR Nova. 1 of kotelnikov.

I really like this synth. Only issue I had was it would pause for a couple minutes or so at the beginning and end of rendering. Very happy with the sound though and think this is my best OSC entry. (Edit: extensive intro update on the 25th)
Last edited by empphryio on Tue May 28, 2024 2:46 am, edited 1 time in total.

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Hello. This is my entry for this round.
Made in Cakewalk. 13 instances of Audible Planets. epicVerb, OTT and W1 Limiter as the additional FX.
https://soundcloud.com/petr-n-mec/bzz-r ... ng-montage

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My entry https://soundcloud.com/zipidowski/han-soloing

8 instances of Audible Planets

DAW
Bitwig 5.1.9

FX:
Cramit
kHs Transient shaper
kHs Delay
Raum
TDR Nova
TDR Kotelnikov
A1 Trigger Gate
LoudMax64
Bitwig Dynamics & Tool

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The insert about other contests is too old and broken.

Indaba does not resolve. Was absorbed by Splice.
metapop redirects to NI website.
Open Source Music Nexus Challenge does not resolve.

What I was able to find:

Armada music Contests .. Show us what you've got
https://www.armadamusic.com/university/contests

BPM College / BPM Remix
https://www.bpm-remix.com/contests/

RemixExs
https://www.remiexs.com/

Splice contests tag
https://splice.com/blog/tag/contests/

Cymatics
https://remixcontest.cymatics.fm/

upd.:
also, I think listing itch.io gamejams is a great idea.
https://itch.io/jams

I'm all for musicians knowing they are needed. Instead of devaluing themselves and/or begging for moot attention. So listing the contests is a great, great addition to each month's page.
https://soundcloud.com/vospi
I love music, worked with a number of music/rhythm/dance games like Pump It Up, In The Groove, Cytus and Deemo, and teach music production.

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Juergen wrote: Sat May 18, 2024 1:44 am This is my first test with AudiblePlanets

https://soundcloud.com/user-221952934-5 ... al_sharing
this is lovely. too bad I can't seem to find a way to comment on it.
https://soundcloud.com/vospi
I love music, worked with a number of music/rhythm/dance games like Pump It Up, In The Groove, Cytus and Deemo, and teach music production.

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Vospi wrote: Tue May 21, 2024 12:30 pm
Juergen wrote: Sat May 18, 2024 1:44 am This is my first test with AudiblePlanets

https://soundcloud.com/user-221952934-5 ... al_sharing
this is lovely. too bad I can't seem to find a way to comment on it.
I'm glad you like it.
The track was set to private, so you couldn't comment. If you want, you can comment now.

Have a nice day
Juergen

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Nerd alarm! I've tried out the repeat mode of the envelopes.
Setup example:
1. Keep only OSC 1 volume, all others go to zero
2. Dial in fast attack and fast decay , no sustain and no release ... it should be only a little "impulse"
3. Set env to repeat mode "free"
4. Set time to about a second ... could may be somehow reflect the tempo of your song.
5. Set the mod wheel to decrease the repeat time down to "zero".
6. play a single note and slowly, very slowly open the mod wheel

Result:
It starts with impulses becoming more dense but very quickly it becomes a weird noise and a "tone". Just try it out. Combine with different FX ...
You can set the "curve" of the mod wheel to repeat time modulation in the nod matrix to "quadratic in" ... it helped a little to not go to fast into the chaos

Mind your ears. Use a Limiter! Use a Equalizer to cut the highs ... you gonna get plenty of them above 14khz when you open the mod wheel.

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