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- KVRAF
- 2202 posts since 16 Apr, 2004 from between my ears
- KVRAF
- 20669 posts since 22 Nov, 2000 from Southern California
Minimonsta is probably the other one most capable of replacing a modular. Nothing against Mini V but it’s not nearly as much of a departure from the original as these two are.
- GRRRRRRR!
- 17697 posts since 14 Jun, 2001 from Somewhere you're not!
Moronic bullshit like the krap you posted gives me plenty of reason to be angry.bonch wrote: Tue May 21, 2024 2:01 amWhoa. You're an extremely angry person for no reason. I can't even take you seriously.
If that's true, it just makes what you wrote even more f**king stupid. Why post all that bullshit about YouTube videos being post-produced when you could have been making a direct comparison?I have used this. I've owned The Legend for years, and I downloaded the trial version of HZ.
I didn't take it that way at all, I was just pointing out that what you wrote was complete bullshit. This response makes it appear that it's not even based in any kind of reality.That's not a knock against The Legend HZ. It's really weird that you take it that way.
Plenty already has. Thankfully it's mostly been a little less on the side of ignorance/stupidity than what you wrote.Other emulations are going to come up in this thread. It's something that's going to happen in any thread about a plug-in because this is a website about plug-ins.
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- KVRAF
- 2245 posts since 10 Apr, 2002 from Saint Germain en Laye, France
z3ta+ from rgc:Audio has 6 oscillators since 2002Nicolau wrote: Sat May 18, 2024 11:34 pm This must be the first subtractive synth with 6 oscillators I know. Isn't that a bit overkill?
When I use oscillator 3 as an LFO, the Semi knob seems to set the frequency. How do I know the Hz value?
- KVRAF
- 4066 posts since 3 Jul, 2022
I think the discussion was more on VA and not substractive synths. Because if not, almost all synths with routing capacity fulfil the condition.carrieres wrote: Tue May 21, 2024 9:12 amz3ta+ from rgc:Audio has 6 oscillators since 2002Nicolau wrote: Sat May 18, 2024 11:34 pm This must be the first subtractive synth with 6 oscillators I know. Isn't that a bit overkill?
When I use oscillator 3 as an LFO, the Semi knob seems to set the frequency. How do I know the Hz value?
You can have 50 oscillators feeding a filter in phase plant.
But VAs? I'm not aware of any example.
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- KVRAF
- 5149 posts since 13 Jul, 2004 from Earth
Korg OPSiX and Arturia DX7V can also be used as Subtractive synths.carrieres wrote: Tue May 21, 2024 9:12 amz3ta+ from rgc:Audio has 6 oscillators since 2002Nicolau wrote: Sat May 18, 2024 11:34 pm This must be the first subtractive synth with 6 oscillators I know. Isn't that a bit overkill?
When I use oscillator 3 as an LFO, the Semi knob seems to set the frequency. How do I know the Hz value?
- KVRAF
- 2245 posts since 10 Apr, 2002 from Saint Germain en Laye, France
VA as Virtual Analog is a term to define substractive synth starting with the synths like AN1x, Nord lead, Virus, Prophecy and Triton ..., so it is an old concept existing before VST and not implying to be an exact copy of an analog synth.Jac459 wrote: Tue May 21, 2024 9:20 amI think the discussion was more on VA and not substractive synths. Because if not, almost all synths with routing capacity fulfil the condition.carrieres wrote: Tue May 21, 2024 9:12 amz3ta+ from rgc:Audio has 6 oscillators since 2002Nicolau wrote: Sat May 18, 2024 11:34 pm This must be the first subtractive synth with 6 oscillators I know. Isn't that a bit overkill?
When I use oscillator 3 as an LFO, the Semi knob seems to set the frequency. How do I know the Hz value?
You can have 50 oscillators feeding a filter in phase plant.
But VAs? I'm not aware of any example.
I prefer calling these synths FM instead of substractive even if they have a filter and they are definitly not analogD-Fusion wrote: Tue May 21, 2024 9:22 am Korg OPSiX and Arturia DX7V can also be used as Subtractive synths.
- KVRAF
- 4066 posts since 3 Jul, 2022
Agreed, but again, in the specific case of this discussion, we were talking about VA where the oscillators are carefully crafted in order to reproduce imperfections.carrieres wrote: Tue May 21, 2024 9:40 amVA as Virtual Analog is a term to define substractive synth starting with the synths like AN1x, Nord lead, Virus, Prophecy and Triton ..., so it is an old concept existing before VST and not implying to be an exact copy of an analog synth.Jac459 wrote: Tue May 21, 2024 9:20 amI think the discussion was more on VA and not substractive synths. Because if not, almost all synths with routing capacity fulfil the condition.carrieres wrote: Tue May 21, 2024 9:12 amz3ta+ from rgc:Audio has 6 oscillators since 2002Nicolau wrote: Sat May 18, 2024 11:34 pm This must be the first subtractive synth with 6 oscillators I know. Isn't that a bit overkill?
When I use oscillator 3 as an LFO, the Semi knob seems to set the frequency. How do I know the Hz value?
You can have 50 oscillators feeding a filter in phase plant.
But VAs? I'm not aware of any example.
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The point was that adding multiple oscillators of legends hz sounds surprisingly good in a way that you don't find in phase plant or avenger for example.
- KVRAF
- 1746 posts since 3 Nov, 2023
Eight!carrieres wrote: Tue May 21, 2024 9:12 amz3ta+ from rgc:Audio has 6 oscillators since 2002Nicolau wrote: Sat May 18, 2024 11:34 pm This must be the first subtractive synth with 6 oscillators I know. Isn't that a bit overkill?
When I use oscillator 3 as an LFO, the Semi knob seems to set the frequency. How do I know the Hz value?
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- KVRAF
- 5149 posts since 13 Jul, 2004 from Earth
They do have many Waveforms to choose from so you can use them as a FM synth or a Subtractive synth.carrieres wrote: Tue May 21, 2024 9:40 amVA as Virtual Analog is a term to define substractive synth starting with the synths like AN1x, Nord lead, Virus, Prophecy and Triton ..., so it is an old concept existing before VST and not implying to be an exact copy of an analog synth.Jac459 wrote: Tue May 21, 2024 9:20 amI think the discussion was more on VA and not substractive synths. Because if not, almost all synths with routing capacity fulfil the condition.carrieres wrote: Tue May 21, 2024 9:12 amz3ta+ from rgc:Audio has 6 oscillators since 2002Nicolau wrote: Sat May 18, 2024 11:34 pm This must be the first subtractive synth with 6 oscillators I know. Isn't that a bit overkill?
When I use oscillator 3 as an LFO, the Semi knob seems to set the frequency. How do I know the Hz value?
You can have 50 oscillators feeding a filter in phase plant.
But VAs? I'm not aware of any example.
I prefer calling these synths FM instead of substractive even if they have a filter and they are definitly not analogD-Fusion wrote: Tue May 21, 2024 9:22 am Korg OPSiX and Arturia DX7V can also be used as Subtractive synths.
- KVRist
- 479 posts since 23 Apr, 2006 from Berlin
https://forum.synapse-audio.com/viewtop ... 4c#p123348D-Fusion wrote: Tue May 21, 2024 10:27 am Back to topic.
I am interested in the RE Version so do i have to buy it twice if i upgrade my Legend vst to Legend HZ?
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- KVRAF
- 5149 posts since 13 Jul, 2004 from Earth
Thanksspacepluk wrote: Tue May 21, 2024 10:53 amhttps://forum.synapse-audio.com/viewtop ... 4c#p123348D-Fusion wrote: Tue May 21, 2024 10:27 am Back to topic.
I am interested in the RE Version so do i have to buy it twice if i upgrade my Legend vst to Legend HZ?
Upgraded while i was waiting for a reply so i hope the RS team are Ok with it when it is released
- KVRAF
- 4066 posts since 3 Jul, 2022
Phase Plant, 11. But again, the quesiton was on emulation of analog hardware.seafire wrote: Tue May 21, 2024 10:02 amEight!carrieres wrote: Tue May 21, 2024 9:12 amz3ta+ from rgc:Audio has 6 oscillators since 2002Nicolau wrote: Sat May 18, 2024 11:34 pm This must be the first subtractive synth with 6 oscillators I know. Isn't that a bit overkill?
When I use oscillator 3 as an LFO, the Semi knob seems to set the frequency. How do I know the Hz value?
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- KVRian
- 1482 posts since 26 Jun, 2002 from London, UK
Arturia Modular V? It has nine oscillators. It would be interesting if someone with more time on their hands than I do (and skill) could compare The Legend HZ with the Modular V.Jac459 wrote: Tue May 21, 2024 9:20 amI think the discussion was more on VA and not substractive synths. Because if not, almost all synths with routing capacity fulfil the condition.carrieres wrote: Tue May 21, 2024 9:12 amz3ta+ from rgc:Audio has 6 oscillators since 2002Nicolau wrote: Sat May 18, 2024 11:34 pm This must be the first subtractive synth with 6 oscillators I know. Isn't that a bit overkill?
When I use oscillator 3 as an LFO, the Semi knob seems to set the frequency. How do I know the Hz value?
You can have 50 oscillators feeding a filter in phase plant.
But VAs? I'm not aware of any example.
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