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msvs · Post by **msvs** » Wed May 22, 2024 12:00 pm

but that is what customers want

zvenx · Post by **zvenx** » Wed May 22, 2024 12:02 pm

... I know you must know your audience, but yeah for me too, the one note 'symphonies' are a turn off from the XP packs.
Maybe do like the unfinished, have two editions/versions.
One without the one note wonders at a slightly cheaper price.
rsp

robert_p · Post by **robert_p** » Wed May 22, 2024 12:49 pm

msvs wrote: Wed May 22, 2024 12:00 pm but that is what customers want

It's like buying an arranger keyboard that perform pre-defined rhythms and harmonies. Good to impress friends by pressing a key and pretends to be a musician, however, truly creative artists are looking for something else.

olepro · Post by **olepro** » Wed May 22, 2024 1:01 pm

Turn me off allso
Never understood the mening with all these Preset packs with one note songs. Would never buy that

egbert101 · Post by **egbert101** » Wed May 22, 2024 1:03 pm

olepro wrote: Wed May 22, 2024 1:01 pm Turn me off allso
Never understood the mening with all these Preset packs with one note songs. Would never buy that

Oh no, don't offend the one note musicians, they'll be raging.

olepro · Post by **olepro** » Wed May 22, 2024 1:08 pm

I know

DCrown · Post by **DCrown** » Wed May 22, 2024 1:31 pm

I use sometimes just one or two parts of a one note preset and delete the rest or turn the appregiator off, I don't dig such presets, too. I understand they are nice for a presentation of a xp, but don't get who would use a more or less finished track/song or even appregiator presets, it makes me feel like I would steal something or I would use something hundreds of users could use, too. It doesn't support creativity at all. Nevertheless I think the atmospherica 2 xp has nice sounds, but I am going to skip this time again, there are too many too cpu hungry presets and too many SQ, ARP, one note presets, chord progressions, loops, songs, human vocals etc
I had to laugh watching Bartek hitting one note and a flute solo was played together with a whole band- a solo!!! Lol
A solo is the most intimitate and unique expression of a musician.
I like Avenger a lot, but expansions could be so much better, they are obviously not addressed to musicians. Musicians can extract and use only a small part of a xp

Jac459 · Post by **Jac459** » Wed May 22, 2024 1:52 pm

I don't see it exactly like you guys.

I think Bartek videos are very misleading. It makes Avenger looks like a synth for cheap wedding one-man-band.
Awful awful... I mean no offense to him... But really this is at the opposite of what I like in music.

BUT
I don't see the one-note presets in a bad way at all. To me it is like sampling. When you take a sample, it sparkles an inspiration, but you need to work hard to make it yours. Some of Avenger expansions are like that. I don't seem them at all being plaid like bartek, basically jamming on others work. It is more like a way to present the presets that is a bit different.

Now, even if I am the devil advocate, most of the time I prefer navigate Spire presets. Because they are clean and easy to use. But I don't mind at all, when missing a bit of inspiration, going a different path through avenger and start from their presets. 100% of the time, I will end up with something totally different.

robert_p · Post by **robert_p** » Wed May 22, 2024 2:08 pm

Jac459 wrote: Wed May 22, 2024 1:52 pm I think Bartek videos are very misleading. It makes Avenger looks like a synth for cheap wedding one-man-band.

There is no problem with Avenger itself - it's a great synth, but these XP patches make it "looks like a synth for cheap wedding one-man-band." I would prefer to have demo songs as additional files in MIDI format - so that I can delete them, leaving only the patches.

zvenx · Post by **zvenx** » Wed May 22, 2024 2:13 pm

robert_p wrote: Wed May 22, 2024 2:08 pm ......
There is no problem with Avenger itself - it's a great synth, but these XP patches make it "looks like a synth for cheap wedding one-man-band." I would prefer to have demo songs as additional files in MIDI format - so that I can delete them, leaving only the patches.

This!!!!!!!
rsp

Jac459 · Post by **Jac459** » Wed May 22, 2024 2:25 pm

No no lol, it is like for sampling my friends... This is not about the destination, it is about the journey...
You need to delete manually all other voices and effects and all... Or it would be too easy... Pain is the only way.

(hum, I am not sure I am even convincing myself lol)...

That being said... One thing is for sure. The quality of the sounds in these expansions is most often absolutely premium. This is excellently crafted sounds... So at the end it is worth a little bit of effort even if like you (ok I confesse) I would prefer them presented differently.

robert_p · Post by **robert_p** » Wed May 22, 2024 2:35 pm

Jac459 wrote: Wed May 22, 2024 2:25 pm The quality of the sounds in these expansions is most often absolutely premium. This is excellently crafted sounds...

Yeah, these are excellently crafted sounds, but f*cked-up by embedded chord progressions.

egbert101 · Post by **egbert101** » Wed May 22, 2024 2:39 pm

Excellent crafted, premium sound quality are all very well, but there are other things like cringe and cliché. Those also have to be removed from the sound, although that's the problem when you're copying the style and sound of the best in their class, because it's copying and not innovative.

Stan Navi · Post by **Stan Navi** » Wed May 22, 2024 2:59 pm

So is preview only available for presets in libraries produced after Factory 2?

ChanceB · Post by **ChanceB** » Wed May 22, 2024 3:16 pm

Stan Navi wrote: Wed May 22, 2024 2:59 pm So is preview only available for presets in libraries produced after Factory 2?

You can create a preview for everything by right clicking on the pack browser and selecting update audio preview

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