Surge XT MPE sound design tutorials
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shutterdownmax shutterdownmax https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=370803
- KVRist
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- 61 posts since 6 Dec, 2015
- KVRAF
- 2512 posts since 8 Jun, 2010
- Roger Linn Design
Thanks for all of these helpful videos, Max.
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FranklyFlawless FranklyFlawless https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=586325
- KVRian
- 814 posts since 24 Oct, 2022 from Abbotsford, British Columbia
Here is the unmentioned subsequent episode in the series, "Making Epic Tribal Drums in Surge XT":
https://invidious.franklyflawless.org/w ... 32hiofAUK0
https://invidious.franklyflawless.org/w ... 32hiofAUK0
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shutterdownmax shutterdownmax https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=370803
- KVRist
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- 61 posts since 6 Dec, 2015
Thanks FranklyFlawless. I wasn't sure whether to mention this one because it's 0% MPE. But the modal resonator makes great drums.FranklyFlawless wrote: ↑Mon Apr 22, 2024 8:07 pm Here is the unmentioned subsequent episode in the series, "Making Epic Tribal Drums in Surge XT":
https://invidious.franklyflawless.org/w ... 32hiofAUK0
Thank you for the thanks, lemondek
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FranklyFlawless FranklyFlawless https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=586325
- KVRian
- 814 posts since 24 Oct, 2022 from Abbotsford, British Columbia
The episode is part of the "MPE Sound Design for Surge XT" playlist, so it would be silly to omit it now.
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- KVRer
- 14 posts since 15 Mar, 2023
Max, Thanks for these great videos. When I first I opened Surge I thought I was staring at the controls for a Galactic Starcruiser! Your videos have made everything so much more intelligible.
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- KVRer
- 11 posts since 7 Oct, 2022
Max, thank you for these tutorial. They are really great and useful in order to understand how to use Surge XT.
I'm not sure you'll be interested in these kind of sound but if so could you please help me to the right direction in order to reproduce some King Crimson sound (Mellotron, Electric Guitar) we can hear on the "Starless" title : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OfR6_V91fG8
- Mellotron can be heard at the begining of the song
- Electric Guitar (Robert Fripp) start at 00:26
Phil.B
I'm not sure you'll be interested in these kind of sound but if so could you please help me to the right direction in order to reproduce some King Crimson sound (Mellotron, Electric Guitar) we can hear on the "Starless" title : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OfR6_V91fG8
- Mellotron can be heard at the begining of the song
- Electric Guitar (Robert Fripp) start at 00:26
Phil.B
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- KVRist
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- 61 posts since 6 Dec, 2015
I'm interested in all kinds of sounds!
For the mellotron, I would use a sampler, not a synth. For this sound, I think any factory string ensemble would work fine. I'd process the samples themselves with a tape emulator (my favorites are u-he Satin, expensive, and Aberrant DSP Sketch Cassette, cheap), then I'd put another tape emulator on the output. Treat with some more old-timey effects like a spring reverb or space echo. I might not use any MPE control on this sound, maybe not even velocity, depending on how "authentic" i want to be. The mellotron was more of very complicated tape player than an expressive instrument.
There are probably original mellotron sample libraries out there.
For electric guitar, I'd build a basic mono pluck sound, use seven of it in channel-per-row. Save the low row for restrike mode. Group the channels and treat it like one electric guitar. Distortion, Amp sim, cabinet sim, whatever other effects you like on the group. I have a video on a similar setup here, but it isn't the cleanest presentation: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zXs06ApnaV4
For the mellotron, I would use a sampler, not a synth. For this sound, I think any factory string ensemble would work fine. I'd process the samples themselves with a tape emulator (my favorites are u-he Satin, expensive, and Aberrant DSP Sketch Cassette, cheap), then I'd put another tape emulator on the output. Treat with some more old-timey effects like a spring reverb or space echo. I might not use any MPE control on this sound, maybe not even velocity, depending on how "authentic" i want to be. The mellotron was more of very complicated tape player than an expressive instrument.
There are probably original mellotron sample libraries out there.
For electric guitar, I'd build a basic mono pluck sound, use seven of it in channel-per-row. Save the low row for restrike mode. Group the channels and treat it like one electric guitar. Distortion, Amp sim, cabinet sim, whatever other effects you like on the group. I have a video on a similar setup here, but it isn't the cleanest presentation: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zXs06ApnaV4
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shutterdownmax shutterdownmax https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=370803
- KVRist
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- 61 posts since 6 Dec, 2015
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shutterdownmax shutterdownmax https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=370803
- KVRist
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- 61 posts since 6 Dec, 2015
Phil_B, i was just wanting some mellotron sounds myself, and after a brief search I found these free samples:Phil_B wrote: ↑Sat Apr 27, 2024 3:37 pm Max, thank you for these tutorial. They are really great and useful in order to understand how to use Surge XT.
I'm not sure you'll be interested in these kind of sound but if so could you please help me to the right direction in order to reproduce some King Crimson sound (Mellotron, Electric Guitar) we can hear on the "Starless" title : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OfR6_V91fG8
- Mellotron can be heard at the begining of the song
- Electric Guitar (Robert Fripp) start at 00:26
Phil.B
https://sonicbloom.net/free-sb-mellotron-samples/
If you're handy with a sampler, or have like 20 minutes to learn, these should give you the mellotron you want.
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- KVRer
- 11 posts since 7 Oct, 2022
Hi Max, many thanks for the links to the Mellotron samples.
Unfortunately, I don't have any idea how I can use these samples with a Linnstrument connected to a Linux Ubuntu machine (https://ubuntustudio.org/).
Unfortunately, I don't have any idea how I can use these samples with a Linnstrument connected to a Linux Ubuntu machine (https://ubuntustudio.org/).
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shutterdownmax shutterdownmax https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=370803
- KVRist
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- 61 posts since 6 Dec, 2015
Ah, sorry, I don't know anything about that. I'm sure they've probably got a sampler in there somewhere, but I'm not going to be able to help.