God forgive me I might change my DAW..

[el-bo (formerly ebow)]

dp

I don't get it

[syntonica]

dp

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That's enough out of you, Smuttley!

[machinesworking]

dp

I don't get it

There's been some talk about them changing the name from Digital Performer and I'm not for it. The double entendre is too funny.

[vurt]

dp

I don't get it

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[zerocrossing]

I’m not looking to ditch Bitwig for my own personal use, but I am considering switching to Cubase for my work DAW. Most of what’s great about Bitwig doesn’t really matter much to music composition and SFX authoring.

[machinesworking]

I’m not looking to ditch Bitwig for my own personal use, but I am considering switching to Cubase for my work DAW. Most of what’s great about Bitwig doesn’t really matter much to music composition and SFX authoring.

if you're in a roundabout way mentioning Bitwigs limited arrangement and MIDI editing capabilities, then I 100% agree. I always have kept DP and in the past Logic around for anything more complex than simple verse chorus arrangements simply because at some point the limited editing options are like wading though mud in Bitwig. I was hoping it would take those areas seriously, since they broke away form Live which also does not take them seriously, but nope.

It's almost a separate topic, but the fact that the "fast" DAWs like Live and Bitwig do some things like mapping VSTs to commonly used parameters on control surfaces, so well, yet have limited quantize options, and severely limited MIDI compared to the old school monsters like DP, Cubase, Logic, Sonar etc. it's a travesty to me. Max 4 Live and the Grid, but no automation types, search functions for MIDI etc. etc.

[eluherlu]

I supposed bitwig was just meant to be like that, non traditional

[zerocrossing]

I’m not looking to ditch Bitwig for my own personal use, but I am considering switching to Cubase for my work DAW. Most of what’s great about Bitwig doesn’t really matter much to music composition and SFX authoring.

if you're in a roundabout way mentioning Bitwigs limited arrangement and MIDI editing capabilities, then I 100% agree. I always have kept DP and in the past Logic around for anything more complex than simple verse chorus arrangements simply because at some point the limited editing options are like wading though mud in Bitwig. I was hoping it would take those areas seriously, since they broke away form Live which also does not take them seriously, but nope.

It's almost a separate topic, but the fact that the "fast" DAWs like Live and Bitwig do some things like mapping VSTs to commonly used parameters on control surfaces, so well, yet have limited quantize options, and severely limited MIDI compared to the old school monsters like DP, Cubase, Logic, Sonar etc. it's a travesty to me. Max 4 Live and the Grid, but no automation types, search functions for MIDI etc. etc.

Not necessarily a roundabout way of pointing out Bitwig's weaknesses, but more just a pointing out that different tools are designed for different jobs. Bitwig and Live clearly come from a "DAW as instrument" paradigm, where other DAWs are not really focused on being used in a live situation at all. That's why I didn't say "switching altogether" but "switching for my work." I'm generally very happy with Bitwig, but things like syncing an audio track to video is clumsy and requires an additional plugin... which still isn't great.

[machinesworking]

Not necessarily a roundabout way of pointing out Bitwig's weaknesses, but more just a pointing out that different tools are designed for different jobs. Bitwig and Live clearly come from a "DAW as instrument" paradigm, where other DAWs are not really focused on being used in a live situation at all. That's why I didn't say "switching altogether" but "switching for my work." I'm generally very happy with Bitwig, but things like syncing an audio track to video is clumsy and requires an additional plugin... which still isn't great.

Yep, you hit on one of the main reasons I haven't really made a decision on which DAW to use as a "performance" DAW, I'm a DP fan boy so that's not changing, but I've used Live since v3 but I've always had a love/hate relationship with the way they go about things, I'm leaning towards Live because of the video support, better dual monitor support. Ableton screwed up the keyboard shortcuts and they say it's for "accessibility" but even with that plenty of every day shortcuts are three keys, and they haven't updated the 12 manual in the shortcuts section, even though it's only online, and the main supposed advantage of online only is updating it when things change.

On the other hand Bitwigs shortcuts are easily best in class, sure I can think of some that don't exist, but the ones that do are so dead simple and smart, it takes days maybe even hours to start using them. The one downside though is not something you would notice, but Metagrid for the iPad supports Mac OS Menu commands directly which means no shortcut learning for anything in the main menus of programs you use, Bitwig does Windows/Linux menus in the program itself so it doesn't publish to third party programs like Metagrid. The multiple monitor support sucks, maybe I got lucky, but Live and DP skunk Bitwig there. I kind of hate Bitwigs Update Plan, it makes Bitwig more expensive, unless you like being versions behind. I like the program in general, the future proofing, of CLAP and DAWproject etc. Navigation in Bitwig is better, and it does seem to spark me creatively more. Video support seems like a no brainer but when and if?

[Jac459]

Just got Bitwig Studio after playing with the 8-track version for months. Getting used to it and I make music with somewhat different workflow. And it makes me excited again!
All the modulators, clip edit, sampler, midi fx etc are soo fun.

Before that I used Reaper for more than 10 years (on and off). I almost have a perfect setup for my Reaper. All that shortcut, toolbar, customizatios. I can make music in lightning fast with Reaper.

Trying to learn a new DAW feels refreshing to me. I don't know if I make better music with Bitwig yet. There are times I feel like, "ugh I can't wait to get back to Reaper so I'm in the comfort zone again". But I get through it and I know I'm having more fun. And now I almost forgot some shortcut keys for Reaper. Oh my..

Is it because it's just a new thing for me? Or Bitwig is simply more fun?
I feel terrible if I ever leaving Reaper. Reaper is always be 'My Guy'. But yeah we'll see..

I have the same story as you but with reason 12. I was a bit tired of Reason and starting to try other DAWs like reaper and ableton.
Didn't work well for me but at the end as soon as I got Bitwig I got hooked.

Tbh, I had instantly more fun but it took me a long time to create better songs in Bitwig than in Reason. Maybe couple of months.

[el-bo (formerly ebow)]

dp

I don't get it

There's been some talk about them changing the name from Digital Performer and I'm not for it. The double entendre is too funny.

"double entendre"? Nah...I got nothing

[el-bo (formerly ebow)]

dp

I don't get it

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That costume looks sweaty

[machinesworking]

dp

I don't get it

There's been some talk about them changing the name from Digital Performer and I'm not for it. The double entendre is too funny.

"double entendre"? Nah...I got nothing

I want to tell you, but I also want to keep you pure, and I can't have both.

[vurt]

dp

I don't get it

There's been some talk about them changing the name from Digital Performer and I'm not for it. The double entendre is too funny.

"double entendre"? Nah...I got nothing

you've lived this long without this knowledge, it may be best you stay innocent

signed
the angry unicorn.

[xbitz]

A miracle happened, a feature request has been fulfilled.

5.2b6 Added mappable action for Play from Time Selection ... which basically means play from cursor position