Browsing Pianobook I noticed that majority of the instruments are made for Decent Sampler. And absolute majority of new ones are for that plugin. But nobody picks SFZ for whatever reason.
So far they are almost identical in capabilities AFAIK, yet Decent Sampler using their own proprietary format.
Why do people pick it over the SFZ?
What makes people pick Decent Sampler over SFZ?
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- KVRAF
- 1791 posts since 17 Sep, 2002
One thing might be, you can't do a custom GUI for SFZ stuff (unless you get in touch with Plogue about it and release it for sforzando)
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- KVRAF
- 3358 posts since 19 Mar, 2008 from germany
Hmm, that's only been happening recently. The reason is that David Hilowitz, a very nice guy,choomaque wrote: Sun Jun 16, 2024 8:46 pm Browsing Pianobook I noticed that majority of the instruments are made for Decent Sampler ...
developer of Decentsampler, has been contributing a lot of multisamples lately.
As far as I know, almost all multisamples for Decent samplers are also available as WAVs, so you
can easily adapt them for the SFZ format and use them as SFZ.
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- KVRist
- 155 posts since 20 Jan, 2022
Decent Sampler is a less capable version of sfz. It works exactly the same, just with different opcodes and a lot less of them.. You can change the opcodes in a dspreset file to ones that sfz uses and it works fine.
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- KVRAF
- 8114 posts since 13 Jan, 2003 from Darkest Kent, UK
That's why i use it, shallow as it seems. He's adding opcodes as it develops so you can make a quite interesting instrument nowadays with a nice gui.funky lime wrote: Thu Jun 20, 2024 6:17 pm One thing might be, you can't do a custom GUI for SFZ stuff (unless you get in touch with Plogue about it and release it for sforzando)
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- KVRAF
- 2211 posts since 20 Sep, 2013 from Poland
David's a friendly guy who makes videos that are easy to watch, and anybody can make a GUI, yeah. I think that's pretty much it.
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- KVRist
- 215 posts since 5 Jun, 2002 from corpus christi tx
I was looking at it and from a promotional standpoint I would think that you would release for both of them if it wasn't that hard to do. Doing it as a vst may be easier to organise for some people and I am under the impression that there is one package on linux that may have an easier time organizing sfz.
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- KVRian
- 1197 posts since 30 Apr, 2018
Sfz doesn't have anyone associated to it. No recognizable face. Nothing like Piano Book. People follow people, not "features".
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- KVRist
- 215 posts since 5 Jun, 2002 from corpus christi tx
They have Sfz at piano book some released as sfz and decent sampler or kontakt and decent sampler. It would be nice to see pre-sets on decent sampler the more organized the better. It is the relationship between the daw and the sampler and having all those instruments spread out that kind of spoils it. The samples on some of these players are amazing though. You hope they get enough support to stick around.Danilo Villanova wrote: Mon Jun 24, 2024 1:04 pm Sfz doesn't have anyone associated to it. No recognizable face. Nothing like Piano Book. People follow people, not "features".
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- KVRist
- 215 posts since 5 Jun, 2002 from corpus christi tx
speaking of people I did notice venus theory in a $20 package that included video software, vst's and a bunch of samples and loops. I think loops are the kiss of death now with youtube and I have a bunch of them.Danilo Villanova wrote: Mon Jun 24, 2024 1:04 pm Sfz doesn't have anyone associated to it. No recognizable face. Nothing like Piano Book. People follow people, not "features".
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- KVRAF
- 3358 posts since 19 Mar, 2008 from germany
SFZ is also associated with a name and a story: Look here:Danilo Villanova wrote: Mon Jun 24, 2024 1:04 pm Sfz doesn't have anyone associated to it. No recognizable face. Nothing like Piano Book. People follow people, not "features".
The SFZ format was developed by René Ceballos (founder of rgc:audio software) and continues
to be used by companies such as Cakewalk, Plogue and Garritan.
free mp3s + info: andy-enroe.de songs + weird stuff: enroe.de
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- KVRAF
- 2211 posts since 20 Sep, 2013 from Poland
Haha, sadly sfz these days is probably also associated with me. I tried to look friendly on the Vengeful Bass GUI, even wore a pink shirt in an attempt to soften my image...
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- KVRAF
- 5383 posts since 25 Jan, 2014 from The End of The World as We Knowit
Obviously Dave Hilowitz looks friendlier than you so more humans use his platform, but you rule with Orcs.
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- KVRAF
- 2211 posts since 20 Sep, 2013 from Poland
Yeah, in all seriousness, Dave's great at being a friendly, presentable face who also makes creating instruments look like something you want to do and could succeed in. And DecentSampler is a good platform for that.
You can do a lot more with SFZ when it comes to true legato, complex vibrato emulation, hi-hat muting etc, but you can't easily put a GUI on your sample library (at least not with the samplers out there right now) and while there's tutorials that go deep down these rabbit holes, there's no friendly 10-minute video that shows how to make an instrument that makes the viewer go "hey, that's not so hard, I could do that".
You can do a lot more with SFZ when it comes to true legato, complex vibrato emulation, hi-hat muting etc, but you can't easily put a GUI on your sample library (at least not with the samplers out there right now) and while there's tutorials that go deep down these rabbit holes, there's no friendly 10-minute video that shows how to make an instrument that makes the viewer go "hey, that's not so hard, I could do that".