Ozone vs Fabfilter for mastering

[bmanic]

For pure bang for the buck, iZotope Ozone is hard to beat. It's got one of the best limiters available anywhere (the limiter algorithms in Ozone have been world class since version 2!!) and you get very good "mojo" stuff, compression, EQ etc all in one package.

The only issue I constantly run into is when beginners who don't know at all what they are doing use presets and just randomly smash their tracks through a whole soup of crazy settings, completely transforming their tracks from good to much worse and then send it out for further mastering. But that's not iZotope's fault (though their presets could perhaps be a tad bit less over the top).

[musicdoc]

With a balanced mix it’s not as much of an issue anymore now that the loudness wars are mostly over. YouTube limits your recording if it is too loud so use whichever is comfortable. I started with Fabfilter even before the Ozone days and before that was using the Precision plug on UAD and with a good mix they all do fine. Ozone has the whole mastering process laid out if one unsure, but I think for myself I can get a little more loudness out of the Fabfilter before destroying the mix. But again, there’s really no point to get a -5 db mix anymore - the streaming platforms will limit it anyways.

[gnu23]

I come from the Ozone camp, but it's not a "religious" thing like Mac vs PC.
Ozone popped on my radar first, and Izotope has more or less done a good job for hobbyist musicians like me, suite-wise.

With technical perquisites pretty much settled across the space, it then boils out to personal preferences.

[kranick]

my point is that if you don't know how to use these plugins, you definitely don't need any of them. These are professional products that only work if you know how to use them.

If you still want to spend some money, then it is better to buy T-RackS 5 MAX v2, which is currently on sale for 50 euros. It will give you about the same as more expensive products, but for much less money.

[swilow11]

For pure bang for the buck, iZotope Ozone is hard to beat. It's got one of the best limiters available anywhere (the limiter algorithms in Ozone have been world class since version 2!!) and you get very good "mojo" stuff, compression, EQ etc all in one package.

The only issue I constantly run into is when beginners who don't know at all what they are doing use presets and just randomly smash their tracks through a whole soup of crazy settings, completely transforming their tracks from good to much worse and then send it out for further mastering. But that's not iZotope's fault (though their presets could perhaps be a tad bit less over the top).

Yeah, I'm going to go Ozone for now. Having used Elements a bit and gained a bit of an understanding of its functionality, I think it will be the winner. Interesting about presets: I just would never think about using presets for program specific FX like compressors and stuff.

I'm really like the PA Shadow Hills compressor, mainly for adding of character so hoping to throw that in the chain somewhere.

[legendCNCD]

I use this, and it's a lot simpler than it looks. Great sound, amazing control over the final result. Check the new Maor Applebaum presets. Now on sale.

https://www.eventideaudio.com/plug-ins/ ... ng-bundle/

I have to say I tried Elevate and it was heavy no go against the default Ozone Limiter here. Somehow it made the treble area very brittle on the tunes I tried. Was just curious, not really going to update, but one friend suggested it. I think it was good but did not work as good as ozone on those songs.

[EfreetiSultan]

It's quite alarming if you can't hear the clear difference in transparency if you've tried both and do mastering. It's concerning to say the least. One sounds like nothing, except the moves on the tools you use, and one sounds like a layer of plastic on top of everything.

[EfreetiSultan]

With a balanced mix it’s not as much of an issue anymore now that the loudness wars are mostly over. YouTube limits your recording if it is too loud so use whichever is comfortable. I started with Fabfilter even before the Ozone days and before that was using the Precision plug on UAD and with a good mix they all do fine. Ozone has the whole mastering process laid out if one unsure, but I think for myself I can get a little more loudness out of the Fabfilter before destroying the mix. But again, there’s really no point to get a -5 db mix anymore - the streaming platforms will limit it anyways.

This is a myth and it's not accurate.

[Jac459]

It's quite alarming if you can't hear the clear difference in transparency if you've tried both and do mastering. It's concerning to say the least. One sounds like nothing, except the moves on the tools you use, and one sounds like a layer of plastic on top of everything.

lol

[Jac459]

With a balanced mix it’s not as much of an issue anymore now that the loudness wars are mostly over. YouTube limits your recording if it is too loud so use whichever is comfortable. I started with Fabfilter even before the Ozone days and before that was using the Precision plug on UAD and with a good mix they all do fine. Ozone has the whole mastering process laid out if one unsure, but I think for myself I can get a little more loudness out of the Fabfilter before destroying the mix. But again, there’s really no point to get a -5 db mix anymore - the streaming platforms will limit it anyways.

This is a myth and it's not accurate.

What is a myth ?

[EfreetiSultan]

With a balanced mix it’s not as much of an issue anymore now that the loudness wars are mostly over. YouTube limits your recording if it is too loud so use whichever is comfortable. I started with Fabfilter even before the Ozone days and before that was using the Precision plug on UAD and with a good mix they all do fine. Ozone has the whole mastering process laid out if one unsure, but I think for myself I can get a little more loudness out of the Fabfilter before destroying the mix. But again, there’s really no point to get a -5 db mix anymore - the streaming platforms will limit it anyways.

This is a myth and it's not accurate.

What is a myth ?

That the loudness wars are over. And that - 14 lufs is "enough".

[EfreetiSultan]

It's quite alarming if you can't hear the clear difference in transparency if you've tried both and do mastering. It's concerning to say the least. One sounds like nothing, except the moves on the tools you use, and one sounds like a layer of plastic on top of everything.

lol

Care to elaborate? What don't you agree with?
Just saying "lol" doesn't really make you look great. At least explain why you found it so hilarious.

[Jac459]

It's quite alarming if you can't hear the clear difference in transparency if you've tried both and do mastering. It's concerning to say the least. One sounds like nothing, except the moves on the tools you use, and one sounds like a layer of plastic on top of everything.

lol

Care to elaborate? What don't you agree with?

Sorry I thought you were joking. Are you saying that between Fabfilter and Ozone/Neutron, one is very good and one is crap ?

If this is the case I call bullshit...
It is like Windows vs MacOS or Audi vs BMW or Xbox vs Playstation. We can pretend they are very different but they are globally very comparable with different approaches and features.

[Jac459]

With a balanced mix it’s not as much of an issue anymore now that the loudness wars are mostly over. YouTube limits your recording if it is too loud so use whichever is comfortable. I started with Fabfilter even before the Ozone days and before that was using the Precision plug on UAD and with a good mix they all do fine. Ozone has the whole mastering process laid out if one unsure, but I think for myself I can get a little more loudness out of the Fabfilter before destroying the mix. But again, there’s really no point to get a -5 db mix anymore - the streaming platforms will limit it anyways.

This is a myth and it's not accurate.

What is a myth ?

That the loudness wars are over. And that - 14 lufs is "enough".

Interesting, can you elaborate in your reasoning ?

[EfreetiSultan]

It's quite alarming if you can't hear the clear difference in transparency if you've tried both and do mastering. It's concerning to say the least. One sounds like nothing, except the moves on the tools you use, and one sounds like a layer of plastic on top of everything.

lol

Care to elaborate? What don't you agree with?

Sorry I thought you were joking. Are you saying that between Fabfilter and Ozone/Neutron, one is very good and one is crap ?

If this is the case I call bullshit...
It is like Windows vs MacOS or Audi vs BMW or Xbox vs Playstation. We can pretend they are very different but they are globally very comparable with different approaches and features.

I find it curious to as to why it seemed like a joke to you.
Yes that's exactly what I'm saying. One is much better than the other.