KVR Audio

whyterabbyt · Post by **whyterabbyt** » Tue Jul 02, 2024 9:16 pm

every time i go to a restaraunt, i insist on seeing the receipts for the knives the chef is using.

cryophonik · Post by **cryophonik** » Tue Jul 02, 2024 9:25 pm

Every time I open a plugin, I tell my client which plugin it is and how much it costs so that they know how good it sounds. If they are unhappy with the sound, I just tell them that I'll need to buy more expensive plugins and will send them the invoice.

effie · Post by **effie** » Tue Jul 02, 2024 9:32 pm

average guy on the street doesn’t even care about plugins.

seismic1 · Post by **seismic1** » Tue Jul 02, 2024 9:46 pm

I work exclusively for a single client. He ain't bothered.

kidslow · Post by **kidslow** » Tue Jul 02, 2024 11:10 pm

I remember when I was like 11 or 12 and my parents came home with brown off-brand sneakers for me and I absolutely pitched a fit. They told me tough shit. I was mortified that I would have to wear Zips when all the cool kids were sporting Nikes. And brown. Ugh! I don't recall any classmates picking on me for my déclassé choice of kicks but perhaps they did. I do recall my childish attitude about them.

Now that I'm all grown up, I realize it's 100% in whether you own those types of situations, be they brown zips ... or free plugins. If you are confident in the tools you use and use them well, clients won't notice nor will they care.

Cavey Arrgh · Post by **Cavey Arrgh** » Tue Jul 02, 2024 11:15 pm

kidslow wrote: Tue Jul 02, 2024 11:10 pm I remember when I was like 11 or 12 and my parents came home with brown off-brand sneakers for me and I absolutely pitched a fit. They told me tough shit. I was mortified that I would have to wear Zips when all the cool kids were sporting Nikes. And brown. Ugh! I don't recall any classmates picking on me for my déclassé choice of kicks but perhaps they did. I do recall my childish attitude about them.

Now that I'm all grown up, I realize it's 100% in whether you own those types of situations, be they brown zips, or free plugins. I use plugins for the workflow and sound capabilities, not for what others might think about my choices. If you are confident in the tools you use and use them well, clients won't notice nor will they care.

Zips were legit!! You can't hide anything in a Nike...

kidslow · Post by **kidslow** » Tue Jul 02, 2024 11:21 pm

I was so clueless. I'm not even sure they were zips. Maybe the next level down generics. lol

Now they're all vaporwavey. I can tell you in the early 1980s they were anything but cool.

sin night · Post by **sin night** » Tue Jul 02, 2024 11:41 pm

I don’t provide any music related servicw to anyone, so I don’t worry about clients. Anyway, I would have no problems with freeware software.

My client at my daily job is a big corporate client and guess what? We do use free / open-source tools. If a big company is happy with free software (because otherwise it would be an additional cost on themselves), why should an artist worry about it?

With that said, there are reasons for paid software.
If it saves time and the amount of time is worth the license price, then you’re providing a better value to the customer (you’re saving his time or using it to improve the final result rather than dealing with an inefficient workflow).
Also, if a paid software gives you a better result, then it could be worth it…

But at the end, you’re selling your time and expertise; plugins, hardware,etc are just your tools (they are important, but getting the reults is way more important)

gullfo · Post by **gullfo** » Tue Jul 02, 2024 11:49 pm

real men don't use plugins.

sin night++ if the plugin is free and does what i need it to do, it's used. if it's a paid plugin and it does what i need it to do, it's used. if i don't need to use a plugin, i don't. i don't consider built-in EQ functions as a plugin (using Sonar) so i may use EQ across a number of tracks and busses where it is needed.

shame? no, but i do keep a paper bag i can put on over my head, if i were ever to feel shame...

stamp · Post by **stamp** » Wed Jul 03, 2024 1:33 am

What is a plugin?

Greenstorm33 · Post by **Greenstorm33** » Wed Jul 03, 2024 1:39 am

Depending on the DAW, you have to use free plugins. If you aren't putting 10 instances of OTT on every track you ain't getting paid

jamcat · Post by **jamcat** » Wed Jul 03, 2024 1:40 am

If the client knew anything at all about plugins, they'd be doing it themself.

Windows · Post by **Windows** » Wed Jul 03, 2024 5:40 am

whyterabbyt wrote: Tue Jul 02, 2024 9:03 pm so are we supposed to assume that these clients have memorised the pricetags of all the available plugins?

No, but working with engineers or producers they would definitely that some stuffs are free.

Windows · Post by **Windows** » Wed Jul 03, 2024 5:43 am

osiris wrote: Tue Jul 02, 2024 9:11 pm If these clients knew about or knew about how to use these plugins, would they still come visit?

I have encountered people who know about production softwares and even popular plugins and know about some free stuffs but have no clue how to mix or master. It's a skill man.

Windows · Post by **Windows** » Wed Jul 03, 2024 5:47 am

effie wrote: Tue Jul 02, 2024 9:32 pm average guy on the street doesn’t even care about plugins.

They do care about using "industry standard" stuffs though because they see the big professional guys talking about them.

Pulling up Free plugins