HALion 7

[WasteLand]

I just read your similar post on another forum, and you described 'per voice' effects as being able to use multiple fx on a voice. Yes, of course you can do that.

In my previous answer where I said no, I thought you were asking about 'per note' fx - such as playing notes C, E, G, and using a phaser, but each note would be processed individualy with that phaser. AFAIK, Halion doesn't do that.

i think you mean at VI-Control. but still meant per voice effects, well it is a normal term for it. the thread in the other forum was full of miscommunication, i was not clear, i think.

in another forum, steinberg forum, i got thé answer, no per voice fx.

as you describe it; each note/voice is processed individualy, of course with modulation, or else it does not make sense.

mostly i use it for MPE, per voice, but not necessarily.

did buy, did i already mention it, HALion 7 after all, within the bundle of Absolute 6.
because well, it is still a beast, and i only scratching the surface; the spectral synth; the wavetable resynthesis!! and the whole wavetable 'zone'..
well; and all the other things.

Oh wow that sounds incredible.

strangely nobody knows, only the developer, how it will sound.... so still MYTHical..
but it will come, ETA; NAMM 2024. and i will make a handfull of presets for it, so i am also very eager to try it out.

but back to HALion 7!

[Echoes in the Attic]

I had halion 7 with absolute for a while but sold it. I think it sounds really good but the interface is too complex. Too many tiny little buttons and settings. Definitely no per voice effects and doesn't work with mpe outside of Cubase which was annoying. So I found I'd always turn to something else first line omnisphere or equator or whatever.

By the way omnisphere is really cool forever voice mpe modulation of the effects racks when younuse multis to splt the midi channels. Make different delay speeds for example on a given note and things line that. Easy to copy a given instrument across parts and update after tweaks.

[c_voltage]

I lover Falcon hehe .
But I don't consider it a Sampler.
It is more like a meta instrument.

A lot of people feel that way. So who am I to tell them otherwise? It's entirely possible that I just don't get it.

I absolutely don't want to get into an argument with you. But don't you think all of Falcon's non-sampling "synth" engines are pretty lackluster compared to the competition? There aren't any synth oscillators in Falcon that I would use over dedicated synthesis engines in other plugins.

On the one hand, I suppose it's cool that Falcon offers all of these different synthesis types in one instrument. But if they don't sound good, then what's the point? To me, all of these different oscillators just complicate what could be an excellent, easy to use software sampler.

Falcon seems like a "jack of all trades, master of none." It's total bloatware, IMO, that makes the instrument far harder to use than it needs to be.

(Although it’s probably not very good to answer a person who cannot answer, but still)
Strongly not agree.
Falcon' oscillators still one of best sounding, especially by unisson sounding (including detuning variation capabilities, due to deep adjustable architecture like interaction with layers\keygroups). That make able to construct jawdropping by tonality complex pads\atmospheres, with no phasey weaks.
Ie his synth modules not exactly correct to consider separately, without taking into account "external" architecture tricks (although even built-in unison in "Analog" osc sounds amazing).
The same about his granular sampler - still one of the best by sound of particular (pad making related) modes.
All IMO.
(Not upgraded to H7 yet, still at 6, if anything).

[Examigan]

A new update for HALion 7 is out now and it's on sale:

https://www.steinberg.net/vst-instrumen ... -features/

[core]

You can win Absolute 6 incl. HALion 7 at this giveaway contest https://rekkerd.org/giveaway-contest-wi ... ollection/
Good luck

[Digivolt]

X-stream seems pretty cool for free

[Sampleconstruct]

Demonstrating the updated spectral oscillator in HALion 7.1 with a sample of male overtone singing from my sound library MetaVox. I had a great time with the updated spectral oscillator during the Beta phase making patches for X-Stream/HALion Sonic, having this osc inside HALion is of course so much better as it is polyphonic (X-Stream is monophonic to prevent the CPU wars).

[SLiC]

Just downloaded 7.1 but cant seem to find X-Stream...should it show up as an instrument?

[Examigan]

More info here:

https://www.steinberg.net/vst-instruments/x-stream/

[SLiC]

Just downloaded 7.1 but cant seem to find X-Stream...should it show up as an instrument?

Found it- its a separate install (in addition to 7.1), its actually pretty cool! a bit 'Izotoe IRIS'

God I hate the Steinberg Installers/Authorisers though4 programs on my computer just to use Halion!

[aMUSEd]

Just downloaded 7.1 but cant seem to find X-Stream...should it show up as an instrument?

Found it- its a separate install (in addition to 7.1), its actually pretty cool! a bit 'Izotoe IRIS'

God I hate the Steinberg Installers/Authorisers though4 programs on my computer just to use Halion!

Yes they are the worst. Nice to have the enhanced OSC but why cripple the X Stream plugin to mono? At least they should give full Halion users the option to make it poly

[IvyBirds]

Yes they are the worst. Nice to have the enhanced OSC but why cripple the X Stream plugin to mono? At least they should give full Halion users the option to make it poly

I had a great time using it to make a pad patch I liked, then I used the assisted sampling function in HALion7 to turn it into sample based instrument

Much more efficient CPU usage that way and it sounds amazing

X-Stream sound awesome but it's a massive CPU hit even on my I9 32gb ram system, I am afraid it would come grinding down to a halt if I tried to play a bunch of notes at once

[tekknovator]

Yes they are the worst. Nice to have the enhanced OSC but why cripple the X Stream plugin to mono? At least they should give full Halion users the option to make it poly

If you have the full version of halion 7, you can just use the spectral zone. It is possible to play that polyphonically.
But spectral engine is really heavy on CPU, so use caution before putting all ten fingers on the keyboard On the other hand, it is not worse then others at that fidelity (as far as I know).

The stack is useful to create poly style sounds. Unlike unison, which just doubles the voice, it operates directly on the spectral level.

[aMUSEd]

Yes they are the worst. Nice to have the enhanced OSC but why cripple the X Stream plugin to mono? At least they should give full Halion users the option to make it poly

If you have the full version of halion 7, you can just use the spectral zone. It is possible to play that polyphonically.

Yes I know but that doesn't have all those nice presets that would all sound much better played polyphonically. It just seems such a waste to have this new instrument but not be able to use it to its full potential

[Sampleconstruct]

Spectral oscillator -> sample analysis tab -> one can save a lot of CPU cycles by decreasing the frequency and dynamic resolution, if a given sample doesn't contain a lot of high frequencies 10 - 12.000 hz will suffice and -96 dB as the default setting is more than enough. And the adaptive filter setting (set to 0.5 by default) will dynamically reduce the resolution to save even more cycles. They put a lot of thought into that during the Beta as they were aware of the CPU issue. Fortunately my new M3 Max MBP only laughs at these issues...