GForce OB-1

[beely]

Similarly, most Windows installers include both 32 bit and 64 bit versions of the plugin, as well as AAX and possibly also CLAP. Also, Mac installers were always bigger, long before Apple Silicon and right through the Intel years and after macOS dropped support for PPC, so that's not it.

When discussing the universal binaries, I'm not talking about the *installer*, which will of course contain multiple plugin formats, I'm talking about the actual plugin code itself, which contains essentially two (or more) copies of the program code to run on each applicable architecture.

So the VST3 format plugin has a binary that contains multiple architectures, and the AU format plugin has a binary that contains multiple architectures etc. There is no "similarly" on Windows - a program/plugin on Windows contains the X64 binary only, that's it. As many plugins wrap up the graphics etc into the binary and the binary is the bulk of the plugin size, on Mac, it's going to have a disk footprint of essentially twice the size as the PC version, that only has a binary for one architecture.

So in the case of these GF instruments, the reason the installer (which contains all plugin formats) is (nearly) twice the size on macOS compared to Windows, is because each individual plugin for each format inside the installer is twice the size compared to Windows, because each individual plugin contains two versions of the plugin code, one for Intel architectures, and one for Apple silicon architectures.

[kraster]

Do you think this is where George Lucas got the name for one of his characters from?

Obi-wan= Obi is the sash on a kimono and Kenobi is derived from sword. The Jedi were supposed to be like Samurai.

R2D2 = Reel 2 dialogue 2 on tape stock.

Chewbacca was the name of George Lucas' Dog.

Han Solo= Han is an old form of John so it's basically John Solo ie. A loner.

Darth Vader= Darth is derived from Dark and Vader is derived from an old German word for father so: Dark father. George Lucas sticking spoilers in plain sight!

[kraster]

Just picked this up.

It sounds glorious!

The Arp sequencer is great fun and the fact that pretty much nearly every parameter can have its own LFO and envelope (like many Gforce synths) really turns it into a monster.

[Scotty]

Hell yeah ….Princess Leia because who wouldn’t want to …..

Do you think this is where George Lucas got the name for one of his characters from?

Obi-wan= Obi is the sash on a kimono and Kenobi is derived from sword. The Jedi were supposed to be like Samurai.

R2D2 = Reel 2 dialogue 2 on tape stock.

Chewbacca was the name of George Lucas' Dog.

Han Solo= Han is an old form of John so it's basically John Solo ie. A loner.

Darth Vader= Darth is derived from Dark and Vader is derived from an old German word for father so: Dark father. George Lucas sticking spoilers in plain sight!

[beely]

Hell yeah ….Princess Leia because who wouldn’t want to …..

Leia "Organa", too... George wasn't *massively* creative with names...

[sqigls]

between the resonance losing bass and the high pass with no Q control adding MONSTER bass the sweet spots are narrow as. Also the Release is so clicky anything below 200ms, makes shaping real BASS sounds difficult. There needs to be some attention placed on the release in these circumstances (using the HP to generate monster bass)... Should really be able to shorten the release to around 100ms without clicking.

[perpetual3]

between the resonance losing bass and the high pass with no Q control adding MONSTER bass the sweet spots are narrow as. Also the Release is so clicky anything below 200ms, makes shaping real BASS sounds difficult. There needs to be some attention placed on the release in these circumstances (using the HP to generate monster bass)... Should really be able to shorten the release to around 100ms without clicking.

Even though the sound is very good on the OB-X, I simply don’t like the envelopes. Sounds like the same issue here.

[Aloysius]

You should write a letter to GForce and put it in a nice envelope.

[BONES]

Btw how do you rate the g force axxess compared to the korg ARP odyssey?

TBH, I only bought Axxess because I used to own an AXXE and, as I was going through the presets, I came across a bass sound that was pretty much exactly what I used to use mine for. It's far more limited than the Odyssey, which makes it hard to do any proper comparison. They each have their own uses and Axxess is certainly much easier to work with. I tend to use Odyssey for lead work and Axxess for those kinds of rhythmic lines that fill out an arrangement.

between the resonance losing bass and the high pass with no Q control adding MONSTER bass the sweet spots are narrow as. Also the Release is so clicky anything below 200ms, makes shaping real BASS sounds difficult. There needs to be some attention placed on the release in these circumstances (using the HP to generate monster bass)... Should really be able to shorten the release to around 100ms without clicking.

You do understand that synths can be used for more than just basslines, don't you? That said, I've mostly been using it for basslines and it's really f**king good at them.

BTW, how does RELEASE get "clicky"?

[sqigls]

what passes as BASS for some people is questionable.

make a 'helicopter' bassline, or use a bassline with a couple of 16th notes in succession... turn the filter off or very low, squidge the high pass up a bit until you get some big ass bass, maybe tame it by increasing res on the main filter... shorten your envelope parameters so you get some quick but powerful pulsating bass notes. turn the the release down, click click click, some kind of crossover point issue, perhaps just emulating what happens on an actual OB-1, either way, it's crap.

[ramseysounds]

Don't buy it then

[christian f.]

what passes as BASS for some people is questionable.

make a 'helicopter' bassline, or use a bassline with a couple of 16th notes in succession... turn the filter off or very low, squidge the high pass up a bit until you get some big ass bass, maybe tame it by increasing res on the main filter... shorten your envelope parameters so you get some quick but powerful pulsating bass notes. turn the the release down, click click click, some kind of crossover point issue, perhaps just emulating what happens on an actual OB-1, either way, it's crap.

The real one sounds amazing , this emulation sounds crap. Not even clost to the best vst for bass.

[BONES]

what passes as BASS for some people is questionable.

make a 'helicopter' bassline, or use a bassline with a couple of 16th notes in succession... turn the filter off or very low, squidge the high pass up a bit until you get some big ass bass, maybe tame it by increasing res on the main filter... shorten your envelope parameters so you get some quick but powerful pulsating bass notes. turn the the release down, click click click, some kind of crossover point issue, perhaps just emulating what happens on an actual OB-1, either way, it's crap.

It's the attack that's clicking, release just stops it from happening because the envelope doesn't get a chance to decay to zero. Can you hear it in a mix? Does it even matter if you can? It's been a thing with pretty much every hardware synth I've ever owned. I imagine it is there in the hardware OB-1 and, therefore, needs to be in this, too, lest purists complain that it doesn't sound authentic. Such is the nature of the world we live in.

BTW, I have no idea what a "helicopter bassline" is. An internet search was not helpful, either.

[egbert101]

Does anyone have a real OB-1? It would make life easier if they could demonstrate it against this plugin rather than all the subjective opinions.

[Mr Arkadin]

Does anyone have a real OB-1? It would make life easier if they could demonstrate it against this plugin rather than all the subjective opinions.

I'm assuming christian f. does with his bold statement. How about it christian f.? Do a side by side.