Kilohearts Plug-ins (My Misunderstanding)

[jrwaltb]

OP has a point as Kilohearts is designed to stack multiple plugins in series with extreme settings, this is different that using one eq however I think fabfilter should also upgrade to 64float. I am not saying you can always hear the difference but its stupid to say its just marketing, if anything the plugin companies saying it does not matter is marketing. Hopefully OP updates this thread if Killohearts reply's back.

[martinjuenke]

Just did the same null test with TDR Kotelnikov, TDR Nova and TDR VOS SlickEQ. Absolute silence, negative infinity. Their output gain can therefore be used as a gain plug-in without engaging the compression and eq features.

So it *is* possible. Back to Kilohearts.

Okay, convinced.
I'll ditch my Kilohearts products and use TDR ones instead.

[Lbdunequest]

In Cubase you can choose to show plugins that support 64-bit float processing. There ain't much. So i wonder why the OP only picks Khs from a huge list of plugin devs that don't support it.

Because I love Kilohearts. I was planning to make their 33 snapins my default plug-ins.

Just to name a few which don't support it : Fabfilter, Waves, Softube, UAD, Melda, Tone Projects, Arturia, NI, Izotope, IK, PA, Kilohearts, Sonible, Toneboosters, and so on. Some of the best sounding, and most used, plugins in the industry, which all don't support 64-bit float processing.

FabFilter: Love FabFilter, but I'm not planning to make them my default plug-ins.

Waves: Will never use them. If they were the last plug-in manufacturer in the world, I'd rather use my DAW's stock plug-ins then.

Softube: Will never do iLok.

UAD: Not interested.

Melda: Never used. Don't like the GUI either.

Tone Projects: Lovely, but too complicated. You need a PhD to use Unisum.

Arturia: Not interested in most of their plug-ins. ColdFire is great though.

NI: Love Reaktor and Monark.

iZotope: Not interested, except for Trash 2.

IK: Not interested.

PA: Not interested.

Kilohearts: LOVE KILOHEARTS.

Sonible: Not interested.

Toneboosters: I like TB Compressor for its upward compression capability.

and so on: Mostly not interested.

In fact, there are only a few plugin devs that support 64-bit. I'd say roughly about 10-15% of everything that anyone has installed. Amongst them are DMG, Sonnox, TDR, Voxengo, Acustica Audio, Steinberg, and a few others. And then not even all plugins that they offer.

So, iow : Don't worry about it.

DMG: Great company. I don't like their GUI though.

Sonnox: Great company, but I won't do iLok.

TDR: Are you sure they're 64-Bit FP?

Voxengo: I don't like the GUI.

Acustica Audio: Not really interested.

I hope this answered your question why I'm singling out Kilohearts. Because I love Kilohearts.

Welcome to the real world, not everything you want you can get. You can use snappins the way it is or dont, simple, dont be a child.

[martinjuenke]

[limitlesssss]

Welcome to the real world, not everything you want you can get. You can use snappins the way it is or dont, simple, dont be a child.

Don't be a child? Seriously?

[swilow11]

Not trying to be rude- genuinely wondering why this actually matters?

[limitlesssss]

Just did the same null test with TDR Kotelnikov, TDR Nova and TDR VOS SlickEQ. Absolute silence, negative infinity. Their output gain can therefore be used as a gain plug-in without engaging the compression and eq features.

So it *is* possible. Back to Kilohearts.

To clarify: I inserted one TDR plug-in (untouched) and it nulled. The same test with Kilohearts Gain plug-in introduces noise at -150dBFS.

When I did two TDR plug-ins in series (the first one cutting 6dB, the next one boosting 6dB) it also introduced noise albeit at a much lower level (-313dBFS).

[Lbdunequest]

Welcome to the real world, not everything you want you can get. You can use snappins the way it is or dont, simple, dont be a child.

Don't be a child? Seriously?

yes because usually children dont accept the situation

[WackyZoundz]

Not trying to be rude- genuinely wondering why this actually matters?

Because the issue makes it impossible to use those plugins professionally.

[swilow11]

Not trying to be rude- genuinely wondering why this actually matters?

Because the issue makes it impossible to use those plugins professionally.

Do you think that no "professionals" have successfully used Kilohearts plugins?

[Igro]

I hope Kilohearts will really look at this.

[Igro]

Not trying to be rude- genuinely wondering why this actually matters?

Because the issue makes it impossible to use those plugins professionally.

Do you think that no "professionals" have successfully used Kilohearts plugins?

Non professionals are those who sound unprofessional.

[WackyZoundz]

A professional works efficiently. Introducing noise with faulty plugins forcing you to filter the noise out afterwards with another plugin is not efficient. Not to mention that the result never sound as good as using a plugin that doesn't introduce noise in the first place.

[whyterabbyt]

A professional works efficiently. Introducing noise with faulty plugins forcing you to filter the noise out afterwards with another plugin is not efficient. Not to mention that the result never sound as good as using a plugin that doesn't introduce noise in the first place.

Is that a yes or a no to 'do you think that no "professionals" have successfully used Kilohearts plugins?'

[WackyZoundz]

It's a "Yes, I put you on the block list for arguing just for the sake of arguing". Goodbye.