Sorry for asking, is it not illegal to sample streaming content off youtube and the internet at large?
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- KVRAF
- 1791 posts since 17 Sep, 2002
It depends entirely on the license. If it's public domain or CC0, for instance, then go for it. But most stuff isn't. But a lot of people just don't care about that stuff at all (until they get in trouble)
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- Beware the Quoth
- 35449 posts since 4 Sep, 2001 from R'lyeh Oceanic Amusement Park and Funfair
No, it is not illegal to sample streaming content off youtube or the internet at large, just because its on youtube or the internet at large. Copyright law is not based on where someone acquires material from, it is based on who has permission to redistribute.
Subject to very specific and limited exceptions, it is a breach of copyright to redistribute copyrighted material, or work derived from that material, that you acquired from any source (including youtube or the internet at large), if you do not have the permission of the copyright holder.
Subject to very specific and limited exceptions, it is a breach of copyright to redistribute copyrighted material, or work derived from that material, that you acquired from any source (including youtube or the internet at large), if you do not have the permission of the copyright holder.
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"In some cases there is an object called red that contains everything that is red. In much the same way a pot is a plate."
"In some cases there is an object called red that contains everything that is red. In much the same way a pot is a plate."
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- KVRer
- 16 posts since 12 Jul, 2024
As long as you dont make money with it, you can freely sample/remix as you like and publish it for free, right?
But could you also play these tracks live?
But could you also play these tracks live?
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- Beware the Quoth
- 35449 posts since 4 Sep, 2001 from R'lyeh Oceanic Amusement Park and Funfair
nope, not even close to right.viewa0 wrote: Thu Jul 25, 2024 3:35 pm As long as you dont make money with it, you can freely sample and remix as you like, right?
An idiot on Set Theory:
"In some cases there is an object called red that contains everything that is red. In much the same way a pot is a plate."
"In some cases there is an object called red that contains everything that is red. In much the same way a pot is a plate."
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- KVRer
- 16 posts since 12 Jul, 2024
Really? Even if its just published for free?whyterabbyt wrote: Thu Jul 25, 2024 3:36 pmnope, not even close to right.viewa0 wrote: Thu Jul 25, 2024 3:35 pm As long as you dont make money with it, you can freely sample and remix as you like, right?
- Beware the Quoth
- 35449 posts since 4 Sep, 2001 from R'lyeh Oceanic Amusement Park and Funfair
Yes, really. Copyright law is not based on anything to do with who pays what. As I said before it is based on who has permission to redistribute. You dont get permission just because there was no fee involved in acquiring it.viewa0 wrote: Thu Jul 25, 2024 3:37 pmReally? Even if its just published for free?whyterabbyt wrote: Thu Jul 25, 2024 3:36 pmnope, not even close to right.viewa0 wrote: Thu Jul 25, 2024 3:35 pm As long as you dont make money with it, you can freely sample and remix as you like, right?
An idiot on Set Theory:
"In some cases there is an object called red that contains everything that is red. In much the same way a pot is a plate."
"In some cases there is an object called red that contains everything that is red. In much the same way a pot is a plate."
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- KVRAF
- 1791 posts since 17 Sep, 2002
edit: nevermind, already covered 
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- KVRist
- 215 posts since 5 Jun, 2002 from corpus christi tx
It's a silly question but they do have synthesizers and such online as well as stuff live reverb tails that don't get captured by your daw exc so audacity can be very useful. Other peoples stuff is where you get into trouble.
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 2771 posts since 3 Dec, 2006
Thank you for your Answer Whyterabbytwhyterabbyt wrote: Thu Jul 25, 2024 2:13 pm No, it is not illegal to sample streaming content off youtube or the internet at large, just because its on youtube or the internet at large. Copyright law is not based on where someone acquires material from, it is based on who has permission to redistribute.
Subject to very specific and limited exceptions, it is a breach of copyright to redistribute copyrighted material, or work derived from that material, that you acquired from any source (including youtube or the internet at large), if you do not have the permission of the copyright holder.
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- KVRer
- 13 posts since 30 Jul, 2024
Always wondered then... How do these artist pump out bootleg after bootleg on Soundcloud, YT, etc and they keep going? is it not copyright infringement?whyterabbyt wrote: Thu Jul 25, 2024 3:39 pmYes, really. Copyright law is not based on anything to do with who pays what. As I said before it is based on who has permission to redistribute. You dont get permission just because there was no fee involved in acquiring it.viewa0 wrote: Thu Jul 25, 2024 3:37 pmReally? Even if its just published for free?whyterabbyt wrote: Thu Jul 25, 2024 3:36 pmnope, not even close to right.viewa0 wrote: Thu Jul 25, 2024 3:35 pm As long as you dont make money with it, you can freely sample and remix as you like, right?
- KVRAF
- 16827 posts since 8 Mar, 2005 from Utrecht, Holland
Not sure whether bootleg still means what it used to be, but the definition of it is that the artist did not publish it, and often it were recordings of concerts or unpublished songs that did not make the album. Maybe you meant to write 'con artist'?Cyber Samurai wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2024 6:32 am How do these artist pump out bootleg after bootleg on Soundcloud, YT, etc and they keep going? is it not copyright infringement?
Sure it is copyright infringement. I don't know about SoundCloud, but YouTube has a very pragmatic approach to it. In the past they would take your video down if their algorithm spotted a piece of copyrighted audio. These days they let the video be there, but all the money made by it (by surrounding advertisements or a share of the 'premium' fee) goes to the copyright holder. It's all fully automated and it keeps everybody happy.
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My MusicCalc is served over https!!
My MusicCalc is served over https!!
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- KVRer
- 13 posts since 30 Jul, 2024
good way to do thing.... makes it a lot less messy
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- KVRist
- 215 posts since 5 Jun, 2002 from corpus christi tx
youtube will ask if you will allow remixing if I remember right although there is software to create mixes where everything stays on youtube so there is no copyright violation. Seems like there is enough live stuff available where no one would want to bother with it.BertKoor wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2024 7:02 amNot sure whether bootleg still means what it used to be, but the definition of it is that the artist did not publish it, and often it were recordings of concerts or unpublished songs that did not make the album. Maybe you meant to write 'con artist'?Cyber Samurai wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2024 6:32 am How do these artist pump out bootleg after bootleg on Soundcloud, YT, etc and they keep going? is it not copyright infringement?
Sure it is copyright infringement. I don't know about SoundCloud, but YouTube has a very pragmatic approach to it. In the past they would take your video down if their algorithm spotted a piece of copyrighted audio. These days they let the video be there, but all the money made by it (by surrounding advertisements or a share of the 'premium' fee) goes to the copyright holder. It's all fully automated and it keeps everybody happy.
- KVRAF
- 14187 posts since 20 Nov, 2003 from Lost and Spaced
You're thinking of white labels. It's very tricky copyright. I did a 'bootleg' Kylie Minogue remix and put it on Youtube and all I got was an email from Sony Music Group asking me to put them as Publisher in the metadata. I did. I do know of instances where someone used chords from a song in a guitar playing tutorial and had their vid taken down. On the other hand I see people playing entire songs still up.
