Should new DAWs be developed in 2024?

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VOODOO U wrote: Wed Jul 24, 2024 4:03 am
syntonica wrote: Wed Jul 24, 2024 3:31 am can only produce soulless drivel.
Which is no different than what the bedroom musician can produce.
it is completely different if you look at it without wanting to be edgy

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viewa0 wrote: Wed Jul 24, 2024 4:37 pm
VOODOO U wrote: Wed Jul 24, 2024 4:03 am
syntonica wrote: Wed Jul 24, 2024 3:31 am can only produce soulless drivel.
Which is no different than what the bedroom musician can produce.
it is completely different if you look at it without wanting to be edgy
he's about as edgy as a foam sphere.
:ud:

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Definetly! A DAW similar to Reason where the guys listen to their user base and build a comprehensive sequencer and workflow.

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viewa0 wrote: Wed Jul 24, 2024 4:37 pm it is completely different if you look at it without wanting to be edgy
Is it? I wouldn't know; I'm too busy wanting to be edgy.

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I suspect that Plugin Guru may make Unify a DAW any time soon.
It's almost there already.
https://www.pluginguru.com/products/unify-standard/

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Colin at Loomer Audio may have a secret program to make a full DAW out of Architect.
That is the main reason that version one has yet to be released.
https://www.loomer.co.uk/architect.html
viewtopic.php?t=517104

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And there is the Behringer DAW
viewtopic.php?p=8940096#p8940096

All new DAW's must have ARA implementation and multitouch capability. MUST!

But then AI may change the course of the music creation process and DAW's may evolve or may be relegated to the dustbin of history.

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Why? Most people don't even know half the features their current DAW has, and most don't even use half of what they are aware of.
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^^^ that ^^^
I'm not a musician, but I've designed sounds that others use to make music. http://soundcloud.com/obsidiananvil

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Hey, if I can poke notes on a grid and play them back through lots of fx, I'm happy. I'll sometimes play with the other toys but I always come back to simplicity.
I started on Logic 5 with a PowerBook G4 550Mhz. I now have a MacBook Air M1 and it's ~165x faster! So, why is my music not proportionally better? :(

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"But then AI may change the course of the music creation process and DAW's may evolve or may be relegated to the dustbin of history."

I suspect there will always be humans that want to do things themselves. And I think the press has convinced everyone that AI is further along than it actually is.

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Kalamata Kid wrote: Thu Jul 25, 2024 8:33 pm I suspect that Plugin Guru may make Unify a DAW any time soon.
It's almost there already.
That would be awesome but willing to bet it ain't gonna happen. One of those limited views where what's the point when it can load into any existing DAW.
Colin at Loomer Audio may have a secret program to make a full DAW out of Architect.
Yea sure. It'll be ready by 3016.

And there is the Behringer DAW
Which will be subscription based.
But then AI may change the course of the music creation process and DAW's may evolve or may be relegated to the dustbin of history.
Dedinitely won't evolve because DAWs don't "evolve". They just get little things here and there added to them. AI will just reduce mouse clicks and keystrokes for the user. Convenient but not evolutionary.
Something evolutionary would be a device that can record music heard from the mind into the computer so it can be manipulated.

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New DAWs should be developed. As time passes we have better technologies and programming tools, so it should get easier to build better DAWS.

However, DAWS are extremely complex systems, with a lot of functionality. It's extremely unlikely that anyone, user or developer, can under everything it's supposed to do. Impossible for people to develop a mental map of the whole thing. Even very difficult for the various parts to fit together.

The complexity won't go away. The need to interface with many poorly and inconsistently written plug ins is hard. And writing a flexible audio and midi routing system, that keeps everything in time and uses plugin latency times and can still send midi to the fourth plug in in a chain and keep time... Ridiculousy difficult.

So yes people should build. But it's always going to be hard and expensive in development time.

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