Muse - New 8-voice Synth from Moog!

[_leras]

Another one, this time someone who can really play a synth.

That's an excellent demo. Changed my first impressions of hearing this for sure.

[_leras]

I played it today against a Subsequent 37, a Minimoog, a Prophet-10, and an OB-X8. It sounds the most like the Subsequent, the character is almost exactly the same.

That's good to hear. I didn't think that from the first few things I heard.

Maybe that's because the synth has a big scope including the dual filters that people have wanted to show off, or maybe I just hadn't listened on speakers. Lol.

[Uncle E]

Yes, a big scope, and the presets all seem to be designed to push it to its limits. Still, as far as character goes, it has that aggressive, biting Subsequent sound and I was easily able to dial them in to sound alike.

[TheMaestro]

Something here a Cherry Audio VST synth can't do?

Honestly I would rate Cherry the least analog emulation capable company. I like their digital synths, but the analog emulations are IMO garbage if was you're looking for is something like analog sound. Arturias newer synths and U-He are pretty dammed good though.

So basically nothing, except for "doesn't sound analog", which no one here could even tell in a blind test.

[CoolColJ]

It supposedly has Voyager oscillators, and it does sound band limited compared to what I hear from a Matriach which sounds brighter and more "teethy"

[machinesworking]

Something here a Cherry Audio VST synth can't do?

Honestly I would rate Cherry the least analog emulation capable company. I like their digital synths, but the analog emulations are IMO garbage if was you're looking for is something like analog sound. Arturias newer synths and U-He are pretty dammed good though.

So basically nothing, except for "doesn't sound analog", which no one here could even tell in a blind test.

Cool talking point, not this time though. My experience with them and their emulations started and ended with the Memorymoog. I've owned a Memorymoog since I was 18, bought it with the 2k inheritance I got when my grandmother died. I got very excited for an even half assed decent emulation, it's not even close. It's so far off that I have zero interest in any claim they ever make about anything. I'm not talking slightly different, without any hyperbole the only similarity Cherrys MM has to a real MM is the layout. The oscillators, filters and even the voice modulation, none of it sounds anything like a Memorymoog. It's an absolute shit show of an emulation.

Again you would have much better luck with Arturia, U-He or IMO pretty much any other developer of emulations. I don't mind and own Dreamsynth but their emulation tech is just not very good at all. There are settings on the MM emulation that sound like white noise, whereas a similar setting on a real MM sounds like a modular patch.

[Uncle E]

It supposedly has Voyager oscillators, and it does sound band limited compared to what I hear from a Matriach which sounds brighter and more "teethy"

It sounded bright and ”teethy” to me. Actually too much for my tastes but at least it’s easy to tame (the dual filters really help with that).

[Constructed Identity]

You can't tell an emulation from the real thing through a YouTube video. What's the audio compression codec? The compression rate? Come on

[machinesworking]

It sounded bright and ”teethy” to me. Actually too much for my tastes but at least it’s easy to tame (the dual filters really help with that).

What I'm waiting for is a moog with the same dirty filter and voice modulation as the Memorymoog. Obviously this is a different design but I wonder how much the filter can be broken?

[Uncle E]

Sorry, I don’t know. I couldn’t get it to saturate the same as the Minimoog but I’m sure I only tapped the surface of what’s possible.

[CoolColJ]

Trigon-6 is probably closer to that, based on an owner who has both a MemoryMoog and Trigon-6
And Sequential did base the voice card on the MemoryMoog voice card

[Jim Roseberry]

Based on early demo's... I thought Muse sounded similar to the Subsequent-37.
Looks like @Uncle E confirmed that hypothesis.

[Jim Roseberry]

Later demos of Muse are starting to sound (to my ears) better.

I'll probably make the trek to Sweetwater (once Muse is back in-stock)... and compare Muse and Polybrute 12.

[CoolColJ]

I'm also planning to head to my local music shop and have a jam on one this week, along with my Sony PCM D50 audio recorder to document the whole thing at 24 bit 96khtz

See if it can do that hard, snappy, thumpy and bonky high resonant sounds I like, which I haven't heard in any demos yet.....
Something the Trigon does pretty well. And the Minimoog and SH-2 I used to have
Along with the Juno 60, and Jupiter 8.
Polybrute and Matrixbrute don't quite do it the same, more rubbery sounding, even though they have 24db ladder filters.
Prologue 16, kinda does, but different with the 12db filter

[revvy]

Weird that the boxes would say “assembled in Taiwan” as i have it on good authority that Muses are being produced in Asheville, with subassemblies and components sourced globally.

Maybe there two things are not mutually exclusive? Taiwanese boxes?