Comprendre - Advanced compressor with 365 parameters
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- Beware the Quoth
- 33770 posts since 4 Sep, 2001 from R'lyeh Oceanic Amusement Park and Funfair
so this is emulating other plugin compressors?
inevitable.
inevitable.
my other modular synth is a bugbrand
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- Beware the Quoth
- 33770 posts since 4 Sep, 2001 from R'lyeh Oceanic Amusement Park and Funfair
slightly disappointed there's no preset for waves one-knob compressor, but just because the notion of replacing one knob with 365 amuses me...
my other modular synth is a bugbrand
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- KVRAF
- 2304 posts since 23 Jan, 2022
one knob compressors are the best dude, stop hatinwhyterabbyt wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2024 4:01 am slightly disappointed there's no preset for waves one-knob compressor, but just because the notion of replacing one knob with 365 amuses me...
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- Beware the Quoth
- 33770 posts since 4 Sep, 2001 from R'lyeh Oceanic Amusement Park and Funfair
my apologies to you and your one wee knob.martiu wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2024 4:10 amone knob compressors are the best dude, stop hatinwhyterabbyt wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2024 4:01 am slightly disappointed there's no preset for waves one-knob compressor, but just because the notion of replacing one knob with 365 amuses me...
my other modular synth is a bugbrand
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- KVRer
- 15 posts since 9 Jul, 2022
I have some presets that match well, but when they were to simple (something like default parameters and maybe just 1 or 2 things more), i did not included them because it is like no variation and no educationnal purpose ...whyterabbyt wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2024 4:01 am slightly disappointed there's no preset for waves one-knob compressor, but just because the notion of replacing one knob with 365 amuses me...
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- KVRist
- 149 posts since 22 Jan, 2022
Comprendre looks incredible, almost like Unisum on steroids. And while I love the possibilities in Unisum, I only use it in mastering because you can get completely lost in the configurability as the minutes and hours just tick away. This... I can't even imagine.
The real challenge here is the UI. The visual feedback is great though a bit dated looking, and based on the videos it seems like it could use some scaling improvements. But I think the feedback visuals are on the right track.
The biggest UI issue I see here is in the labeling. For instance, I have no idea how relate a detector formula to some compressor detector that I'm already familiar with (1176, LA2A, etc). I have no idea what the cryptic labels on the knobs do. Even most of the tab labels at the bottom don't make any sense to me at a glance. I also don't think you need the settings values to go 6 decimals deep. Will anyone be able to discern between a setting at 1.139483 versus 1.139485? That's just exposing needless information.
In terms of the manual, I wouldn't bother. IMO, a mouseover with popup descriptors would be far better than stopping what you're doing to dig through a PDF or online manual.
Just spitballing here... For blocking and tackling compressor work, most people, myself included, have a bank of 4-6 compressors that they like for specific tasks, and just reach for the one they know can do the task at hand quickly. But what something like this could be useful for would be as a platform for other plugin developers to leverage to quickly and easily model emulations or novel compressors. So if you provided APIs to the controls and to a bank of visuals, then a downstream developer could use this as a framework and expose whatever controls and visuals he needs to his end user, and also reskin the UI to taste. Or maybe that's just crazy talk. I'm not a developer so not sure if that's feasible as a technical idea or a business model.
Cool idea though. One compressor to rule them all.
The real challenge here is the UI. The visual feedback is great though a bit dated looking, and based on the videos it seems like it could use some scaling improvements. But I think the feedback visuals are on the right track.
The biggest UI issue I see here is in the labeling. For instance, I have no idea how relate a detector formula to some compressor detector that I'm already familiar with (1176, LA2A, etc). I have no idea what the cryptic labels on the knobs do. Even most of the tab labels at the bottom don't make any sense to me at a glance. I also don't think you need the settings values to go 6 decimals deep. Will anyone be able to discern between a setting at 1.139483 versus 1.139485? That's just exposing needless information.
In terms of the manual, I wouldn't bother. IMO, a mouseover with popup descriptors would be far better than stopping what you're doing to dig through a PDF or online manual.
Just spitballing here... For blocking and tackling compressor work, most people, myself included, have a bank of 4-6 compressors that they like for specific tasks, and just reach for the one they know can do the task at hand quickly. But what something like this could be useful for would be as a platform for other plugin developers to leverage to quickly and easily model emulations or novel compressors. So if you provided APIs to the controls and to a bank of visuals, then a downstream developer could use this as a framework and expose whatever controls and visuals he needs to his end user, and also reskin the UI to taste. Or maybe that's just crazy talk. I'm not a developer so not sure if that's feasible as a technical idea or a business model.
Cool idea though. One compressor to rule them all.
Last edited by billinder33 on Fri Jul 26, 2024 8:41 am, edited 3 times in total.
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 1615 posts since 3 Jan, 2019 from Holland
Yeah a mouse-over with pop-ups would be the obvious solution.
What also could help is to give the bottom row some more space, allowing for slightly longer descriptions of the functions.
What also could help is to give the bottom row some more space, allowing for slightly longer descriptions of the functions.
The loudness war is over, loudness has won
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- KVRist
- 264 posts since 22 Jun, 2020
This really fun to tweak especially driving the fet settings to distortion on drums, the pre-sets are godsend as place to start.
As it will show yellow high lights of the used parameters for that style of compressor.
The biggest bug I have found, oversampling in any setting will immediately freeze lock Fl Studio the latest version and Acon Digital's Acoustica to crash to desktop. Reaper gets unstable with high oversampling through the plugin.
As it will show yellow high lights of the used parameters for that style of compressor.
The biggest bug I have found, oversampling in any setting will immediately freeze lock Fl Studio the latest version and Acon Digital's Acoustica to crash to desktop. Reaper gets unstable with high oversampling through the plugin.
The smallest minority on earth is the individual.
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- KVRer
- 15 posts since 9 Jul, 2022
release 1.0.2MJACau wrote: ↑Sat Jul 27, 2024 7:45 am This really fun to tweak especially driving the fet settings to distortion on drums, the pre-sets are godsend as place to start.
As it will show yellow high lights of the used parameters for that style of compressor.
The biggest bug I have found, oversampling in any setting will immediately freeze lock Fl Studio the latest version and Acon Digital's Acoustica to crash to desktop. Reaper gets unstable with high oversampling through the plugin.
-oversampling debug (plugindoctor ok, blue cat patchwork ok) => i let you try with reaper, fl studio, acon digial acoustica etc.
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 1615 posts since 3 Jan, 2019 from Holland
Unfortunately still pretty buggy.
Cubase 13, Win 10 : Lagging of graphics in the daw, had one crash already, sometimes one channel not working with oversampling on, some weird artifacts/sounds when using the eq settings. Overall it feels like an early beta version.
The sound however, is very good. The saturation settings (fet settings) are the biggest surprise, really cool to play around with those.
Cubase 13, Win 10 : Lagging of graphics in the daw, had one crash already, sometimes one channel not working with oversampling on, some weird artifacts/sounds when using the eq settings. Overall it feels like an early beta version.
The sound however, is very good. The saturation settings (fet settings) are the biggest surprise, really cool to play around with those.
The loudness war is over, loudness has won
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- KVRer
- 6 posts since 19 Feb, 2021
The price point makes it a no brainer to explore. And the fact how many parameters it has is in my opinion is a magnetizing factor in itself.
Both things combined are making it a definite try and experiment situation.
The Gui may feel cluttered, but look at a modular synth "interface"... it certainly doesnt hold back people from using them
But yeah sure, clearing it up, making it easier accessible for the eyes and mouse and hands most definitely is something that can always be altered. And maybe will happen.
really new projects that do something different in my opinion are always worth a look
Both things combined are making it a definite try and experiment situation.
The Gui may feel cluttered, but look at a modular synth "interface"... it certainly doesnt hold back people from using them
But yeah sure, clearing it up, making it easier accessible for the eyes and mouse and hands most definitely is something that can always be altered. And maybe will happen.
really new projects that do something different in my opinion are always worth a look
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- KVRist
- 264 posts since 22 Jun, 2020
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- KVRer
- 15 posts since 9 Jul, 2022