No, it will not.MogwaiBoy wrote: Sun Jun 26, 2022 10:04 am Will updating my machine to Windows 11 bring any benefit to music production?
Benefits would be things like better plugin efficiency (CPU use), lower latency (I doubt it), multi-threading enhancements - that sort of thing.
I am aware there are other changes to the Start menu, Taskbar, features etc - I'm talking purely just about in-DAW.
Windows 10 vs 11 for Music Production & Mixing (should I update)?
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- KVRian
- 1161 posts since 26 Feb, 2006 from Fartland
Free MIDI plugins and other stuff:
https://jstuff.wordpress.com
"MIDI 2.0 is an extension of MIDI 1.0. It does not replace MIDI 1.0(...)"
https://jstuff.wordpress.com
"MIDI 2.0 is an extension of MIDI 1.0. It does not replace MIDI 1.0(...)"
- KVRAF
- 14309 posts since 20 Nov, 2003 from Lost and Spaced
With the new updates I'll tell you to Right Click and Run As Administrator.
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- KVRian
- 1161 posts since 26 Feb, 2006 from Fartland
Damn it.osiris wrote: Thu Jul 11, 2024 8:26 pm With the new updates I'll tell you to Right Click and Run As Administrator.
Free MIDI plugins and other stuff:
https://jstuff.wordpress.com
"MIDI 2.0 is an extension of MIDI 1.0. It does not replace MIDI 1.0(...)"
https://jstuff.wordpress.com
"MIDI 2.0 is an extension of MIDI 1.0. It does not replace MIDI 1.0(...)"
- KVRAF
- 14309 posts since 20 Nov, 2003 from Lost and Spaced
In FL , the Melda plugins started acting up and saying stuff about Read/Write permissions. Some other plugin also. That stopped it.
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- KVRer
- 6 posts since 23 Apr, 2024
I havent read the full thread, but look at an app called latency mon, it will show you whats eating your resources, disabling the wifi made a huge difference for me
- KVRAF
- 2382 posts since 23 Sep, 2004 from Kocmoc
Wifi has always been a problem, with PC's and macs. And bad signal -> even more problems. Also would disable BT.
Soft Knees - Live 12, Diva, Omnisphere, Slate Digital VSX, TDR, Kush Audio, U-He, PA, Valhalla, Fuse, Pulsar AUDIO, NI, OekSound etc. on Win11Pro R7950X & RME AiO Pro
https://www.youtube.com/@softknees/videos Music & Demoscene
https://www.youtube.com/@softknees/videos Music & Demoscene
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- KVRer
- 22 posts since 2 Oct, 2020
Updating will not make the difference you may expect, but optimizing Windows will definitely make a difference.Windows 10 vs 11 for Music Production & Mixing (should I update)?
Look for "The Ultimate Guide to Optimize your Windows PC for the Stage".
- KVRian
- 1314 posts since 7 Apr, 2019 from Canada
This is an old post, but after watching my temps for over a year; I agree that windows 11 does run a lot hotter. I think if you avoided any conventional mechanical hard drives, and used only ssd's that windows 11 could be better.ideny wrote: Tue Jul 05, 2022 6:28 pm I run Windows 11 and in my scenario the CPU is hotter. Enabled all the security options such as ransom and advanced thread potectiion Windows 11 seems to user now AVX code and was using ligter SSE code before.
With such features enabled , typilly not on daw system.
The CPU gets hotter on Windows 11, because the OS is using more AVX code when using security features, which puts more power on it.
I had to reduce my overcked 6 coreb from 5gz to 4,5ghz for all core. Intel 8086k. It was working with higher speed, but the fan became to noisy and some ground taks.
With that said, windows 10 had been a better audio development platform for me. I think unless there is an absolute need for it; that audio professionals should avoid windows 11. If it's too late for you; like it is for me; you could consider all ssd's like I suggested, and maybe also consider radical cooling solutions for your CPU and GPU.
Imo, if you're not running a newer i3, i5, i7 or i9; the Thermaltake PS120 SE is the best cooling solution, and you should consider an aio for your gpu for a daw environment. I've noticed vst's using more and more images and vector graphics than ever; which is surprisingly hard on the cpu, because of the computations. It's too bad that VST3 or Pro Tools formats do not put that processing load onto the GPU, so to reduce latency overall; maybe in a VST4 scenario, it could be a reality.
If you use ultra thin fans like arctic or phantek makes, you could potentially send air flow into the cooling fins of the PS120 SE from either side on both manifolds. I think the competing air systems blowing through those steel fins from either side would be more effective, and act like a fridge or freezer's compressor. Perhaps that would be enough to lessen the effect of windows 11 on your CPU overall. Maybe though; a really good AIO is the only solution.
One interesting thing to note; is that I'd realized that encryption was turned on in Windows 11, even though I had tried to avoid it, and followed all of the guides to circumvent it. The less my cpu has to do the better I'd thought; especially due to the realization that my fast, reliable yet aging motherboard does not have a TPM.
I don't make audio products anymore. I sell furniture & smart products.
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- KVRer
- 6 posts since 25 Aug, 2024
Actually, I did notice my project load times did slow down once I upgraded, but also it's a free upgrade and support is a thing, so I went for it. Not seeing any other downsides, and performance seems the same.
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- KVRian
- 1062 posts since 3 Oct, 2011 from Christchurch, New Zealand
win11 will default to virtualisation based security on hardware that supports it - and that will cost you a bit of speed.
Personally I think the improved security offered is worth it in the modern threat environment - but if you want you can disable it : https://www.tomshardware.com/how-to/dis ... windows-11
Personally I think the improved security offered is worth it in the modern threat environment - but if you want you can disable it : https://www.tomshardware.com/how-to/dis ... windows-11
