Best Pitch shifter VST ("Realtime")
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- KVRist
- 169 posts since 18 Feb, 2021
The best among all the ones I tried is the Kilohearts' kHs Pitch Shifter, man that plugin sounds clean and perfect.
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- KVRAF
- 12489 posts since 16 Aug, 2006
Gave it a quick demo and purchased pretty quickly. This covers my ITB Whammy/PitchFork desires. Thanks!Audiority wrote: Mon Aug 05, 2024 6:53 amThe Mix control is in the header bar, between the INPUT and OUTPUT controls.Funkybot's Evil Twin wrote: Sun Aug 04, 2024 8:14 pm Does it have no Mix control? Correct me if I'm wrong but the classic Whammy is about 50/50? And this reminds me a bit of the Electro Harmonix Pitchfork pedal except that has a Mix knob and does both directions at once. But I haven't demoed it yet. Maybe it does. Just going off the photo on the site.
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- KVRAF
- 7794 posts since 20 Jul, 2004 from Clearwater
The highest quality one is Elastique Pitch.
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- KVRAF
- 5375 posts since 22 Jul, 2006 from Tasmania, Australia
Is this a contender?
I have this week been working on it and made it a lot better than the v
available at my website.
It's newly modded better and this is the first release here of the new grain time ratios
It has no copy protection and the source is included for Flowstone v3484
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https://drive.google.com/file/d/1a7QzPc ... sp=sharing It has like a very slight slow vibrato as the artifact,
which is not unpleasing sounding
-the artifact is very very subtle
I hope it's good enough
Please set your samplerate to 44.1 khz to use it
It does a resampling of grains and interleaves them with fades
It is defined as not pure dsp of Flowstone,
as it uses a trigger to trigger a float array resample,
not a stream
It's intended application is transposing electric guitar to key
I tested the khs one,
it's not 100% free of cyclical vibrato either at the settings I tested,
but it's very good, ty khs
Other than that I'm using the one in IK Amplitube 5,
I have not heard any artifact in that one(it's the best one for guitar I have heard in soft)
-also I have tried Guitar Rig's one, the Redlight is better imo,
GR one is a bit grainy in an unpleasant way
(edited)-sorry I didn't include the vsts last time 5 min ago, which are Win only
The link should be correct now, so ready to download
(edit 2) it seems the timed trigger for the resampler steps out after a couple of hours,
for now re-instantiate it when that happens. I'm trying to find a fix,
it's difficult coz it takes ages before it steps out.
It goes out in a switch-like manner, not drifting slowly
I have this week been working on it and made it a lot better than the v
available at my website.
It's newly modded better and this is the first release here of the new grain time ratios
It has no copy protection and the source is included for Flowstone v3484
==>
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1a7QzPc ... sp=sharing It has like a very slight slow vibrato as the artifact,
which is not unpleasing sounding
-the artifact is very very subtle
I hope it's good enough
Please set your samplerate to 44.1 khz to use it
It does a resampling of grains and interleaves them with fades
It is defined as not pure dsp of Flowstone,
as it uses a trigger to trigger a float array resample,
not a stream
It's intended application is transposing electric guitar to key
I tested the khs one,
it's not 100% free of cyclical vibrato either at the settings I tested,
but it's very good, ty khs
Other than that I'm using the one in IK Amplitube 5,
I have not heard any artifact in that one(it's the best one for guitar I have heard in soft)
-also I have tried Guitar Rig's one, the Redlight is better imo,
GR one is a bit grainy in an unpleasant way
(edited)-sorry I didn't include the vsts last time 5 min ago, which are Win only
The link should be correct now, so ready to download
(edit 2) it seems the timed trigger for the resampler steps out after a couple of hours,
for now re-instantiate it when that happens. I'm trying to find a fix,
it's difficult coz it takes ages before it steps out.
It goes out in a switch-like manner, not drifting slowly
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- KVRAF
- 3370 posts since 19 Mar, 2008 from germany
It is definitely a contender!
I'll have to try out the Redshifter. But your "Shiftah" is one of the
best pitch shifters for me. It also has an integrated equalizer. It's
a fantastic shifter!
Link: Click here and scroll down to "Shiftah" .
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- KVRAF
- 5375 posts since 22 Jul, 2006 from Tasmania, Australia
hey enroe!
the trigger now has 17 decimal places for a fraction of 1 sec
that might have fixed it
will change the file in the link soon
Shiftah seems to have some spectral smearing,
I could add a dc blocker and anti-aliasing elliptical lp,
would clean it
for use case, I can only play electric guitar in D minor,
so I use a table like this to play any jam track on YouTube:- The Redlight is what I'm using to transpose with atm,
before fx with Amplitube and Guitar Rig
the trigger now has 17 decimal places for a fraction of 1 sec
that might have fixed it
will change the file in the link soon
Shiftah seems to have some spectral smearing,
I could add a dc blocker and anti-aliasing elliptical lp,
would clean it
for use case, I can only play electric guitar in D minor,
so I use a table like this to play any jam track on YouTube:- The Redlight is what I'm using to transpose with atm,
before fx with Amplitube and Guitar Rig
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- KVRAF
- 14204 posts since 20 Nov, 2003 from Lost and Spaced
I;ve used the Khz one. It's great because you can automate the pitch. Also love Melda Autopitch.
- KVRian
- 857 posts since 12 May, 2004
Another contender to consider: QuikQuak’s “Pitchwheel”
https://www.quikquak.com/Prod_Pitchwheel.html
https://www.quikquak.com/Prod_Pitchwheel.html
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- KVRian
- 888 posts since 31 May, 2008 from Australia
Guess it's a bit late now since you purchased something, but I was going to say have you tried the Kuassa stuff, Whammo Pitch Shifter, Harmonitron Harmonizer, Meloditron Smart Harmony?Funkybot's Evil Twin wrote: Mon Aug 05, 2024 12:49 pm Gave it a quick demo and purchased pretty quickly. This covers my ITB Whammy/PitchFork desires. Thanks!
I own them all, I downloaded that Hypertune and demoed it and done a side by side on a couple of little ditties I came up with while I was messing around with the Hypertune with the Harmonitron, saved me dropping the $39 on the Hypertune, but it may suit yourself better, we are all different and so much good stuff to choose from, lucky times.
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- KVRAF
- 1500 posts since 7 Jun, 2021
For creative uses:
IRCAMS Flux Trax
its still on sale at audio deluxe for $99.
https://www.audiodeluxe.com/products/au ... am-trax-v3
it´s NOT realtime-realtime, like for live Guitar playing, imho.
Latency depends on some settings. Mostly: min-max frequenzy
I have it now down to ~70ms. Can easily be up to 200ms.
I use it for live playing, keyboard. (in my studio) i do live with those 70+ms latency
oversampling tricks don´t work on this one to bring the latency down.
i just had a quick test going vs. Z-plane pitch and Devious machines pitch monster.
these others have a squawking sound when pitching up. normal. Trax in comparsion does not.
Z-plane has 140ms latency and only 12 semitones up/down shift. Too little for creative uses.
These are for my uses just not anything a comparison. Found my new leader.
i´ve played all three, jamming with HW controls. i CC map things out.
this was not a test with " a mouse and a small keyboard".
makes a difference
the other two have been recent purchases.
wasted money, as it turns out.
Well, pitchmonster is fun in its own regard.........make toy sounds
Trax is in my book an entirely own league of pitch shifting tool.
to notes: the coding is not flawless. And a warning: never use this one without a saftynet limiter end of chain !!!....you can force it to spit out sound explosions.
IRCAMS Flux Trax
its still on sale at audio deluxe for $99.
https://www.audiodeluxe.com/products/au ... am-trax-v3
it´s NOT realtime-realtime, like for live Guitar playing, imho.
Latency depends on some settings. Mostly: min-max frequenzy
I have it now down to ~70ms. Can easily be up to 200ms.
I use it for live playing, keyboard. (in my studio) i do live with those 70+ms latency
oversampling tricks don´t work on this one to bring the latency down.
i just had a quick test going vs. Z-plane pitch and Devious machines pitch monster.
these others have a squawking sound when pitching up. normal. Trax in comparsion does not.
Z-plane has 140ms latency and only 12 semitones up/down shift. Too little for creative uses.
These are for my uses just not anything a comparison. Found my new leader.
i´ve played all three, jamming with HW controls. i CC map things out.
this was not a test with " a mouse and a small keyboard".
makes a difference
the other two have been recent purchases.
wasted money, as it turns out.
Well, pitchmonster is fun in its own regard.........make toy sounds
Trax is in my book an entirely own league of pitch shifting tool.
to notes: the coding is not flawless. And a warning: never use this one without a saftynet limiter end of chain !!!....you can force it to spit out sound explosions.
"Plugin has turned Drug now"....and the business knows it.
- KVRAF
- 1500 posts since 7 Jun, 2021
yeah, i used the eventide pitchfactor (stompbox) quite a bit. Big fun.pekbro wrote: Mon Aug 12, 2024 8:04 am I tend to use the eventide stuff on guitar, they've a fair number of plugins that pitch shift,
or I use HW pitch shifters of which I have a variety...
but i could not gel with its comparable eventide SW tools. i never use those.
in regards to Pitchshifting under realtime jamm conditions do i think is the Flux Trax outstanding.
to mention: under such conditions, when we jamm, would we take the things way above of just beeing pitchshifting alone. We start to become creative, and we would take things to places, don´t we ?
Then, under those conditions would i personally stop asking for "which one is best" ( re: pitchshiting). since reality is, each tool might be good to take you to other places, different than with that other one.
pitchfactor was for me supercool for funky resonator type of stuff,....and then jamm that shit out of it. Trax is for me extremly cool, but for other things. I´d suspect it´s the coolest so far.....i use for example it for "sound alteration" duties. The pitchshifting itself is just a tool to achive "that".
i just had some tests this morning vs. Z-plane pitch and the devious machines pitchmonster.
They for example would make the up pitched sounds do sound squawking.
quasi every pitchshiter does. Thats why i work mostly with downshfting.
But the Trax does not ( with my settings / nothing special).
Z-plane goes only +- 12 semitones. Thats not fun enough for creative uses, imho.
While i think, that the trax sounds even better....if it was just about that picthshifting alone.
Trax is so far for me the best pitchshifting tool i ever played with.
is it for sober pitchshifting ( only tested with piano so far) or is it for creative jamms.
But, It does totally not replace anything delay+PS.
i´m quite exaggerating on this one !
those $99 were VERY WELL spent bucks.
And thats not anything honeymooing. certainly not
Also:
I would like to point out: playing guitar is an entirely different task going FX, rather than playing keyboard. I think it´s important to understand that.
As a guitarist are nonne of your hands free
Controlling parameters with a footpedal can work equally well.
mostoften it does not.
It will work well with parameters that are not meant to be dialed in precisely. But might not be that well suited to jamm with parameters that are requiring at least some precision.
i like for example trax to just deadjust the pitch, and then only, or mostly, jamming with the Formant parameter alone. "That" should certainly fit a guitar/foot pedal approach nicely as well. I´d bet that trax would be fun to have it within a guitar-FX patch.
( check GP (host) for any such realtime play roundtrip patchings. check it anyway for everything "loading plugins into a host for jamm purposes"....nonne of my patches would have been possible, loading plugins into a DAW. just to say)
"Plugin has turned Drug now"....and the business knows it.
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Funkybot's Evil Twin Funkybot's Evil Twin https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=116627
- KVRAF
- 12489 posts since 16 Aug, 2006
I believe I demoed the Whammo and it didn't sound enough like a Whammy to me. Or maybe I just listened to videos and came to that conclusion. Honestly don't remember. There's a certain kind of bad to the pitch shifting in the Whammy, and to a slightly lesser extent the EH Pitchfork, that I thought Hypertune got in the ballpark of. Plus, it was only $19 for me.jinotsuh wrote: Mon Aug 12, 2024 4:33 amGuess it's a bit late now since you purchased something, but I was going to say have you tried the Kuassa stuff, Whammo Pitch Shifter, Harmonitron Harmonizer, Meloditron Smart Harmony?Funkybot's Evil Twin wrote: Mon Aug 05, 2024 12:49 pm Gave it a quick demo and purchased pretty quickly. This covers my ITB Whammy/PitchFork desires. Thanks!
I own them all, I downloaded that Hypertune and demoed it and done a side by side on a couple of little ditties I came up with while I was messing around with the Hypertune with the Harmonitron, saved me dropping the $39 on the Hypertune, but it may suit yourself better, we are all different and so much good stuff to choose from, lucky times.
- Banned
- 317 posts since 1 Jun, 2024
Having just now tested a few I think the cubase stock is best (the offline processing), 2nd is cubase real-time (infobar), and third would be waves Soundshifter. I don't really enjoy the khs plugins.
* cubase as well as live uses Elastique, and it's simply the best. For a real time insert I'd definitely have to go with waves sound shifter
* cubase as well as live uses Elastique, and it's simply the best. For a real time insert I'd definitely have to go with waves sound shifter
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Funkybot's Evil Twin Funkybot's Evil Twin https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=116627
- KVRAF
- 12489 posts since 16 Aug, 2006
The thing with pitchshifters IMO is "best at what?" Do you want realistic and transparent results? Do you want glitchy, interesting-sounding results? Do you need scale+key quantizing or straight pitch-shifting? What kind of end product sound do you have in mind (hi-fi, lo-fi, something that'll pass in the background, lead vocal quality)? This thread was about "real-time" so I'm assuming zero to low latency, but are you willing to use an offline workflow or deal with high latency is another question for sure. And most importantly: on what types of source material? What works for vocals, may not be what one wants on guitars, which may not work for bass, or percussion.
