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I really don't want to sell my Matrixbrute but the Moog Muse has caught my attention. Would i be worth keeping the Matrixbrute if i bought the Moog Muse. The problem is there is no way i can justify traveling hundreds of miles to try out a synth i might not like

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Order online, send back if you don't like it.

Although you might want to really make sure that you like it, considering that it costs 3.500 €...

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No that would be unfair then it would become b stock and be discounted. if i didn't like it and i would not do that to the company i get my synths from mainly

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boombaxx wrote: Wed Aug 14, 2024 1:56 pm I really don't want to sell my Matrixbrute...
If you don't want to sell your MatrixBrute, then don't! Why give up something that you know you like to pay for a fraction of something that you might not like? Trust me, that GAS for the shiny new synth will subside at some point, so ride it out until you get a chance to actually try the Moog. I'll also point out that any time I consider selling my MatrixBrute, I look at the going resale value and it pretty quickly changes my mind. I've seen the OG edition selling for as little as $800, which is just ridiculous for such a beast of a synth.
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boombaxx wrote: Wed Aug 14, 2024 1:56 pm I really don't want to sell my Matrixbrute but the Moog Muse has caught my attention. Would i be worth keeping the Matrixbrute if i bought the Moog Muse. The problem is there is no way i can justify traveling hundreds of miles to try out a synth i might not like
Just be patient. It will end up on sale on reverb or somewhere else used within a year at most. Then you can buy it and try it and, if you decide you don't like it, you can resell it for just the cost of shipping. I'm in the same boat - already went to Guitar Center close to me and they said they wouldn't have one in store. We'll see

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Seems like apples & oranges to me. Quite different synths with different sonic character and aims of use. If you like what the MatrixBrute does, are you going to get the same sounds/use out of a Muse? Doubtful IMO. Absolutely you can use a Muse for mono sounds but they're going to sound very Moogy and despite the features it gives, I don't think they'll be anywhere close to the complexity a Brute gives, and obvs the filters are way apart. If you desperately want an analogue poly, there are quite a few options nowadays, and some are considerably less than $3500. Having said that, of course you might want different sonic palettes, in which case the sad reality is you need both, not one or the other. Either/or is not a sensible question for these two synths.

Depends on what your own use scenario is. I had an unscratchable itch for a big analogue poly for a while so ended up getting a UBXa. I'm not disappointed with it, it does exactly what I thought it would do, more in fact. But ultimately, it's getting hard for me to ignore the fact that actually I really do not need 16 voices of analogue and it was GAS if I'm brutally honest. I'm stupid enough that I'm still going to buy a BJupiter when it comes out, and for some fkn eejit reason I might even buy a PolyOSC if they release that. None of which I'll use to their full potential :dog: .

If you can afford it then get your jollies and buy it, no ifs or buts. If you seriously can't afford it, then try to be honest with yourself. Do you need a big analogue poly? Again, if I'm honest with myself, my poly needs were already easily catered for with a Wavestate and an Opsix. TBH I rarely use the Opsix for more than 4 notes anyway. Most chords I use are based on strings, vocal or basic sawtoothery - all of which the Wavestate can do extremely well and a damn sight more than 8 voices. Just sayin' :scared:

I'm an addict, I admit it. I'll buy all kinds of analogue and hw shit. TBH Moogs never impressed me, so maybe I shouldn't answer here but despite different tastes, hw addicts are much alike. If you're an addict, just be honest and collect to make yourself happy. 1 synth on its own is never going to complete you or your setup, now is it? :hihi:

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Muse is a killer for sure, but don't forget about Oberheim TEO-5 that is half price as well.

TEO has a lot to offer.

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boombaxx wrote: Wed Aug 14, 2024 1:56 pm I really don't want to sell my Matrixbrute but the Moog Muse has caught my attention. Would i be worth keeping the Matrixbrute if i bought the Moog Muse. Here.The problem is there is no way i can justify traveling hundreds of miles to try out a synth i might not like
Until you try it yourself and understand whether it is worth buying it just like that! I don't even trust reviews, only personal experience will give you accurate information!
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Sounds like G.A.S.

Different synths for different purposes, as someone else remarked. One is a monosynth, the other is a polysynth.
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I would keep the Matrixbrute (it seems a very powerful monosynth… and you also like it!) and wait for the early adopters of the Muse to figure out all the bugs/issues.

If I had the money and the space, I think I would probably have a Matrixbrute in my collection, too.
I’m currently looking at the Muse, but I’ll keep waiting for the foreseable future (I was looking at the Trigon-6 desktop before the Muse… I’m still unsure about what to buy and IF I should buy any; the Muse offers way more features, but I need the space for it).

I bought various synths right after they were announced (for example the Mother-32 or the TR-8S), but this time I feel like I don’t want to be an early adopter; I’d wait at least untill the first big firmware update.


I plan to try it in person when it will be available at the local music store (even in its current state, if no update is avaible yet) to get an idea about the sound and the interface (if it’s worth to me to keep an eye on it), but I’m not purchasing at the moment.
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Thanks i am hanging back at the moment

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I just heard behringer are doing the arp 2600 clone for 350. I thought why not buy 3 of them and hook them up to the matrixbrute. 12 oscillators all i have to do is hook one 2600 then duplicate it twice more loads of cables thru cv, gate and midi. Is that proper gas

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Sounds like a terrible idea but you do you.

I suggest if your G.A.S. is getting to you, to try out the Pro-800 first, then consider getting another for 16 note polyphony or for stereo analog. Absolutely the best value for money when it comes to polysynth currently, if you must have real analog.

Alternatively, the UB-Xa Desktop is I believe still 16 note polyphony.

If you want something a bit more integrated, then the DeepMind 12D is good value for money with excellent effects integration, although there is only one analog oscillator per voice.
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boombaxx wrote: Wed Aug 28, 2024 2:40 pm I just heard behringer are doing the arp 2600 clone for 350. I thought why not buy 3 of them and hook them up to the matrixbrute. 12 oscillators all i have to do is hook one 2600 then duplicate it twice more loads of cables thru cv, gate and midi. Is that proper gas
Something very similar was recently done with an original 2600 and three Korg clones and there is a video of it on YouTube.
See Anthony Marinelli Music's "1 Moog Modular, 4 ARP 2600s & Endless Poly Expression with Bob Rosen"

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