Nomad Factory British Bundle Update

[Teksonik]

Just a heads up that the Nomad Factory British Bundle has been updated to version 2 which brings among other things re-sizable GUIs which were sorely needed. I can't find the whole change log at the moment.

The update is free for existing owners and the bundle is on sale for $35 at the moment:

https://www.nomadfactory.com/products/b ... /?goback=2

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Now that I can see them again thanks to the new sizes I've been using both recently and I do very much like their character. For $35 it's a great deal, in my opinion of course. As always try the demos first. (One thing to note is that setting the size for one plugin sets the size for the other as well. I would prefer separate sizes but I'm just grateful for the new sizes and it's not really a big deal.)

I would like to thank those responsible for updating the Nomad plugins and setting the updates free for existing owners. It's a great gesture and Bernie (may he rest in peace) would no doubt be very pleased.

(Hey Air Music, you see how it should be done?)

[Scrubbing Monkeys]

How cool. I use the Analog signature series often. They are great and low cpu. When you think about it these are actually newer than some Waves staples we know and love.......without the bs.

[machinesworking]

They just rolled out the Analog Mastering Tools a while ago. Hopefully this means they're stepping up pace. Motown bundle got used a lot here.

[kidslow]

Plugivery has earned a lot of goodwill from me for their handling of the Nomad Factory plugins. They are doing what they said they would do, even if the timeframes might have slipped.

Buried in their forums was laid out a sort of plan for the remainder of the updates to the legacy products. I expect them all to be done in due course.

[dmbaer]

Buried in their forums was laid out a sort of plan for the remainder of the updates to the legacy products. I expect them all to be done in due course.

Thanks for this - never would have spotted it otherwise. I was, however, disappointed that Analog Signature Pack wasn't mentioned. That's at the top of my most-wanted list, now that Pulseteq 2 and Magnetics 2 have seen the light of day.

[mcbpete]

Plugivery has earned a lot of goodwill from me for their handling of the Nomad Factory plugins. They are doing what they said they would do, even if the timeframes might have slipped.

Absolutely - Having free updates to keep a good collection of plugins current on modern OSs vs paying for newer versions just so your Windows install doesn't Blue Screen on boot is definitely appreciated as a customer

[hotmitts]

Good news, I really love the Nomad factory stuff

[Teksonik]

Plugivery has earned a lot of goodwill from me for their handling of the Nomad Factory plugins. They are doing what they said they would do, even if the timeframes might have slipped.

Absolutely - Having free updates to keep a good collection of plugins current on modern OSs vs paying for newer versions just so your Windows install doesn't Blue Screen on boot is definitely appreciated as a customer

Just to clarify in order to remove any confusion that might arise, Nomad Factory does not use iLok in any way, shape, or form.

You're referring to Air plugins which do use ilok and the link you gave shows why I'm very thankful that Nomad Factory does not.

I only mentioned Air Music because just like the Nomad plugins people have been asking for larger GUIs on the Air plugins for what seems like well over a decade and even though they are doing "updates" to some of their legacy plugins they will not to the best of my knowledge available at this time contain re-sizable GUIs.

So Nomad has listened and delivered....Air has not. Which is why the former will get my business in the future and the latter no longer will.

[machinesworking]

I only mentioned Air Music because just like the Nomad plugins people have been asking for larger GUIs on the Air plugins for what seems like well over a decade and even though they are doing "updates" to some of their legacy plugins they will not to the best of my knowledge available at this time contain re-sizable GUIs.

So Nomad has listened and delivered....Air has not. Which is why the former will get my business in the future and the latter no longer will.

Owning an MPC I will always use Air plugins.

I'm not sure why it's a talking point to compare the two besides both being last in line? Air are not revamping their older plugins, because they're owned by InMusic, and the newer Air plugins more than half work on the MPC line up in stand alone mode. It's the direction they're going in, Akai and Moog are the top line of InMusic brands and the old Air plugins are basically deprecated. I was just surprised we got them back in working form at all? Some things are already being replaced, Tube Synth is basically Vacuum. I mean the rock bottom prices on Air's older plugins should be a give away that they're not being developed in their current form. I think I paid $40 for Loom, but the rest were $9-19. I would love to be wrong, but GUI revamping is costly and I'm betting we see a lot more things like the Fabric Collection replacing Xpand 2 etc.

A lot of manufacturers did it right, I'm glad Nomad Factory is slowly porting to Apple Silicon, VST3 and resizable GUI's but it's been years and years, and I own Integral pack. it will probably be another two before all of them are ported.

[Clearscreen]

This is great news! Managed to update my licenses to v2 for this and Pulsetec EQ's! Thanks Plugivery!! Still excellent sounding plugins!

[Teksonik]

Air are not revamping their older plugins,

Revamping perhaps not but updating yes. The updates bring VST3 versions and support for Win 11 if that's actually a thing.

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They're doing it so they can keep selling their old plugins but have completely ignored the long running request for modern size GUIs including recent requests:

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I own almost all the Air plugins but don't reach for them these days because the GUIs are too small to be comfortable and I have other better sounding alternatives. For the record, in the past I have offered to pay for updates that contain modern GUI sizes but the offer fell on deaf ears.

I'm glad Nomad Factory is slowly porting to Apple Silicon, VST3 and resizable GUI's but it's been years and years

Remember that Nomad's main developer passed away so that had serious consequences. They could have just gone out of business and faded away so it's wonderful that Plugivery are taking over the reins and updating the catalog albeit slowly.

So far I've gotten the PEQ2, Cosmos 3, and British Bundle updates for free so am very grateful. I think the Blue Tube plugins and the Plugin and Mix bundles are near:

"• Plug & Mix V.I.P. Bundle: There's a lot of anticipation for this one, and rightfully so. It's been a beast with 50 plugins to update, a process that's eaten up over two years of our time. But, we're nearly there and can't wait to get this into your hands by May or early June at the latest.

• Blue Tubes Bundle: We're not stopping there. The flagship Blue Tubes Bundle is already in the works with major improvements on the way. July is our target for this release, fingers crossed.

• In Between Surprises: And just because we can, we might sneak in a few surprises here and there, like the Liquid Bundle, which is all set and just waiting on a fresh coat of paint, graphics-wise".

So they're a bit behind schedule but still working and that's what really matters.

[machinesworking]

Air are not revamping their older plugins,

Revamping perhaps not but updating yes. The updates bring VST3 versions and support for Win 11 if that's actually a thing.

They're doing it so they can keep selling their old plugins but have completely ignored the long running request for modern size GUIs including recent requests

I own almost all the Air plugins but don't reach for them these days because the GUIs are too small to be comfortable and I have other better sounding alternatives. For the record, in the past I have offered to pay for updates that contain modern GUI sizes but the offer fell on deaf ears.

You skipped the explanation of their strategy. They're not going to be developing any of these plugins anymore, there's references to them being "legacy" by Air etc. and "versions" keep appearing like Tube Synth = Vacuum and Fabric = Xpand2. I was really surprised they even bothered to update them at all. My guess is too much internally needs to change to make them MPC native, and that's what most of their new plugins are: VST3, AU, and MPC native. So VST3 and Apple Silicon was to me a decent surprise. For sure I wish Loom II was native but I think I paid maybe $30 for it.

I'm glad Nomad Factory is slowly porting to Apple Silicon, VST3 and resizable GUI's but it's been years and years

Remember that Nomad's main developer passed away so that had serious consequences. They could have just gone out of business and faded away so it's wonderful that Plugivery are taking over the reins and updating the catalog albeit slowly.

So far I've gotten the PEQ2, Cosmos 3, and British Bundle updates for free so am very grateful. I think the Blue Tube plugins and the Plugin and Mix bundles are near:
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So they're a bit behind schedule but still working and that's what really matters.

Yeah, I also paid something like $350 for Integral Studio (most Nomad Factory plugins), plus one upgrade etc. I think I paid maybe $70 total for Loom II, Vacuum Pro, Hybrid3, Xpand2, Transfuser2 etc. in blowout sales over the years. I never expected much from the Air plugins beyond maybe Loom, because it was obvious they were ancient code and not valued by Air.
Plus owning an MPC I can see where InMusic is spending money. There are about 15 new plugins from Air, and some do seem like they scalped the legacy plugins to develop them. I'm not upset at them, it's not like I paid anything for them to begin with, and the MPC OS assures there's a solid impossible to screw up place for those plugins to exist in perpetuity.

I like Nomad don't get me wrong, and I love companies that just update their older plugins, but it's not like Air really bilked me out of any real money.

[hotmitts]

Really happy to see these are being updated, they're still great plug-ins

[Teksonik]

You skipped the explanation of their strategy.

Air's strategy is painfully obvious. They're adding VST3 and latest Mac spec support so they can keep selling those "classic" plugins to more people without ever actually updating them.

Nomad is managing to fulfil that same larger GUI request and I'll wager a guess that Air is a much larger company at this point so the argument that "it's too much work" really doesn't hold water.

The thing that drew my ire was when Simon said "they were listening to their customers" when in fact they have for years ignored one of the most common requests from their customers.

I have lost respect for the company plain and simple. Others will no doubt disagree and that's fine.

[plexuss]

There is no law that a software developer has to keep expanding their product. In terms of product design, its a bad idea to keep bloading the product. Also, there will always be bugs and incompatibilities. There is nothing wrong with a software developer halting feature growth of their products, but continuing to maintain them for modern systems and provide support. In terms of features, if you think it through, the product could easily suffer in many ways irritating to customers, with onging feature creep.

It is bad if a software dev stops providing support, compatibility updates and/or doesnt fix critical bugs. Sometimes its a matter of resouces or just bad decisions and its good to try and give them a break. There is risk in being an audio software consumer - there is a growing list of devs that have broken down from a customer perspective.