Plugin Deflation
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- KVRian
- 546 posts since 8 Mar, 2007
Are plugins too expensive today? I don't think so.
Here is a sample plugin price list (TDM) from Waves in 1997. Not adjusted for inflation and not including the TDM hardware used to run them.
And here is a sample of what you got to look at.
And now for just $29.99.
Here is a sample plugin price list (TDM) from Waves in 1997. Not adjusted for inflation and not including the TDM hardware used to run them.
And here is a sample of what you got to look at.
And now for just $29.99.
- KVRAF
- 7692 posts since 2 Sep, 2019
Stuff that was digitally mastered with the L1 in 1997 sounded horrible.
And anything that is mastered with the L1 today still sounds horrible.
So there's that...
And anything that is mastered with the L1 today still sounds horrible.
So there's that...
THIS MUSIC HAS BEEN MIXED TO BE PLAYED LOUD SO TURN IT UP
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- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 546 posts since 8 Mar, 2007
You should let Waves know before they embarrass themselves any further.jamcat wrote: Tue Aug 20, 2024 4:28 am Stuff that was digitally mastered with the L1 in 1997 sounded horrible.
And anything that is mastered with the L1 today still sounds horrible.
So there's that...
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- KVRian
- 1161 posts since 14 Oct, 2006 from france
careyletendre wrote: Tue Aug 20, 2024 5:11 am You should let Waves know before they embarrass themselves any further.
- KVRAF
- 7692 posts since 2 Sep, 2019
Waves aren't embarrassing themselves. They're making money (though a lot less these days.)
It's the people who use the L1 that embarrass themselves.
It's the people who use the L1 that embarrass themselves.
THIS MUSIC HAS BEEN MIXED TO BE PLAYED LOUD SO TURN IT UP
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- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 546 posts since 8 Mar, 2007
jamcat wrote: Tue Aug 20, 2024 5:42 am Waves aren't embarrassing themselves. They're making money (though a lot less these days.)
It's the people who use the L1 that embarrass themselves.

- KVRAF
- 7692 posts since 2 Sep, 2019
THIS MUSIC HAS BEEN MIXED TO BE PLAYED LOUD SO TURN IT UP
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- KVRist
- 242 posts since 5 Apr, 2024
Or get the W1 for free.
https://www.yohng.com/software/w1limit.html
All software should tend towards zero in a free market, no?
https://www.yohng.com/software/w1limit.html
All software should tend towards zero in a free market, no?
- KVRAF
- 8037 posts since 28 Dec, 2015 from Atlantis Island
THIS MUSIC HAS BEEN MIXED TO BE PLAYED LOUD SO TURN IT UP
That's the signature of JamCat (fyi)
https://sonograyn.bandcamp.com/music Experimental Ambient
https://martinjuenke.bandcamp.com/music Alternative Instrumental
https://martinjuenke.bandcamp.com/music Alternative Instrumental
- KVRAF
- 7692 posts since 2 Sep, 2019
Yes. Do you know what that means, though?martinjuenke wrote: Tue Aug 20, 2024 7:19 amTHIS MUSIC HAS BEEN MIXED TO BE PLAYED LOUD SO TURN IT UP
That's the signature of JamCat (fyi)
THIS MUSIC HAS BEEN MIXED TO BE PLAYED LOUD SO TURN IT UP
- KVRAF
- 8037 posts since 28 Dec, 2015 from Atlantis Island
Touché!revvy wrote: Tue Aug 20, 2024 7:36 am You mastered it too quietly due to inexperience so we have to turn it up?
https://sonograyn.bandcamp.com/music Experimental Ambient
https://martinjuenke.bandcamp.com/music Alternative Instrumental
https://martinjuenke.bandcamp.com/music Alternative Instrumental
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- KVRAF
- 5444 posts since 15 Feb, 2020
Joking!martinjuenke wrote: Tue Aug 20, 2024 7:37 amTouché!revvy wrote: Tue Aug 20, 2024 7:36 am You mastered it too quietly due to inexperience so we have to turn it up?
I lost my heart in Cap de Creus
- KVRAF
- 8037 posts since 28 Dec, 2015 from Atlantis Island
revvy wrote: Tue Aug 20, 2024 7:48 amJoking!martinjuenke wrote: Tue Aug 20, 2024 7:37 amTouché!revvy wrote: Tue Aug 20, 2024 7:36 am You mastered it too quietly due to inexperience so we have to turn it up?
https://sonograyn.bandcamp.com/music Experimental Ambient
https://martinjuenke.bandcamp.com/music Alternative Instrumental
https://martinjuenke.bandcamp.com/music Alternative Instrumental
- KVRAF
- 7692 posts since 2 Sep, 2019
So it's actually from the liner notes of The Cure's Disintegration.
Notice that it says it was MIXED to be PLAYED loud, not MASTERED to BE loud.
David M. Allen mixed the album to sound good when it was turned up. But it's up to the LISTENER to turn it up. It doesn't try to snatch the volume control from YOUR hand.
Music that has been mastered to BE loud doesn't sound good when you turn it up.
And that is the reason why it is in my signature.
Notice that it says it was MIXED to be PLAYED loud, not MASTERED to BE loud.
David M. Allen mixed the album to sound good when it was turned up. But it's up to the LISTENER to turn it up. It doesn't try to snatch the volume control from YOUR hand.
Music that has been mastered to BE loud doesn't sound good when you turn it up.
And that is the reason why it is in my signature.
THIS MUSIC HAS BEEN MIXED TO BE PLAYED LOUD SO TURN IT UP
