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Dirtgrain · Post by **Dirtgrain** » Fri Aug 16, 2024 7:06 pm

EfreetiSultan wrote: Fri Aug 16, 2024 5:02 pm
Dirtgrain wrote: Fri Aug 16, 2024 4:38 pm I've enjoyed making Synplant presets, and I like it. It does have limitations, and it cannot do much with samples that have harmony in it. Playing with any preset on the seed tree is fun and can be productive, but it's much a process of chance and discovery. I imagine the same will be said for Spire AI. You will have to wade through some crap results to find great sounds (that's pretty much my moto, though).
It can't do anything with samples period. Everything turns out to be fm noise. And iirc the engine is a 2 operator fm synth. Which would explain everything sounding like fm noise.

Nope

vega555 · Post by **vega555** » Tue Aug 20, 2024 3:08 pm

New Free Spire soundbank - The Sight
Download: https://reveal-sound.com/store/product/The_Sight

anoise · Post by **anoise** » Tue Aug 20, 2024 4:59 pm

Very good presets, thanks.
Edit: Playing around with it some more, damn, some of the best sounds I heard for Spire. The pads are awesome.

SLiC · Post by **SLiC** » Tue Aug 20, 2024 5:39 pm

Yup- some lovely stuff; Spire is still one of the best sounding VSTs ever made.

bmanic · Post by **bmanic** » Tue Aug 20, 2024 5:55 pm

You guys notice how the PDF info file for The Sight sound set says this: "REQUIREMENT: Reveal Sound Spire synthesizer Version 1.5.17 or higher"

.. yet the newest public version is 1.5.16 (which is still rather damn buggy with notes being stuck if you use modwheel and sustain pedal at the same time).

So finally some hope for an update that fixes these bugs that have been plaguing the damn synth for the past 5 years?

Also this little bit in the PDF:

"All of these presets have been created using Reveal Sound's groundbreaking new artificial intelligence, Reveal Sound AI, integrated in Spire synthesizer."

SLiC · Post by **SLiC** » Tue Aug 20, 2024 6:12 pm

bmanic wrote: Tue Aug 20, 2024 5:55 pm You guys notice how the PDF info file for The Sight sound set says this: "REQUIREMENT: Reveal Sound Spire synthesizer Version 1.5.17 or higher"

.. yet the newest public version is 1.5.16 (which is still rather damn buggy with notes being stuck if you use modwheel and sustain pedal at the same time).

So finally some hope for an update that fixes these bugs that have been plaguing the damn synth for the past 5 years?

Also this little bit in the PDF:

"All of these presets have been created using Reveal Sound's groundbreaking new artificial intelligence, Reveal Sound AI, integrated in Spire synthesizer."

On the Website it has a banner on the right saying 'Spire AI coming this summer' https://www.reveal-sound.com/

swilow11 · Post by **swilow11** » Wed Aug 21, 2024 2:20 am

Spire AI sounds like one of the least interesting updates I can imagine. The synth itself is already easy to program. Hard to see how AI is going to be of great benefit. I'd much rather see Reveal Sound allow importation of wavetables than whatever this is meant to be.

That said, if the update is free, I'll have a look although Spire is on my "possibly sell/trade" list.

Touch The Universe · Post by **Touch The Universe** » Wed Aug 21, 2024 5:22 am

I'd imagine there soundset shop mix 10 times more money than spire so I'm questioning the wisdom in baking in an essentially infinite preset Bank maker. Perhaps their goal is to actually make it easier for sound designers to make presets and they're counting on just the majority of customers not to dig due to deep in this area?

Medenka · Post by **Medenka** » Wed Aug 21, 2024 7:24 am

Preset making/saving/management/sharing is THE WAY for every synthesizer. If it's aiming to be used and aimed at popularity. Therefore, features and functionality related to presets should be improved as much as possible.

Bug fixing is good, too!

AdvancedFollower · Post by **AdvancedFollower** » Wed Aug 21, 2024 7:32 am

It's probably just a simple patch generator branded as "AI". "AI Washing" is all the rage right now.

I'd rather they focused on fixing bugs like the VST3 parameter bugs mentioned earlier.

SLiC · Post by **SLiC** » Wed Aug 21, 2024 10:16 am

AdvancedFollower wrote: Wed Aug 21, 2024 7:32 am I'd rather they focused on fixing bugs like the VST3 parameter bugs mentioned earlier.

At least we know we are getting a new version soon- as well as new features I would expect bug fixes...

AkiraMenai · Post by **AkiraMenai** » Thu Aug 22, 2024 7:42 am

"Coming this Summer" pretty much HAS to mean in under a month. "AI," I kinda doubt it, but if they just have algorithms that can create this kind of complexity and beauty, I may not leave my seat until Winter. I haven't felt this excited for a synth since I believed Zebra 3 was on the verge of release...

phreaque · Post by **phreaque** » Tue Sep 03, 2024 6:07 am

Version 1.5.17 is already out as a beta now

vega555 · Post by **vega555** » Tue Sep 03, 2024 6:38 am

Spire 1.5.17 with Reveal Sound AI has been released!
Available for download at https://reveal-sound.com/
Please note:
- This is a beta version and the algorithms may change later.
- The beta version has a free demo mode for 2048 presets per day
for those who have a license, and 64 presets per day for those who don't.

Please contact support@reveal-sound.com for any questions

Caine123 · Post by **Caine123** » Tue Sep 03, 2024 7:57 am

why do you need to login for the PLANE to the account? strange that you need to do that for it. (another data collecting?)

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