Why is modern music so awful

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You cut out the country matters joke!

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The Changeling by Middleton and Rowley is good for double entendres. Gloves, for example.

(Note the use of pumps for shoes; the word puke is used in the Duchess of Malfi)

Act 1, Scene 1
DEFLORES
Here, lady.

[He hands Beatrice her glove.]

BEATRICE
Mischief on your officious forwardness;
Who bade you stoop? They touch my hand no more:
There, for t'other's sake I part with this;
Take 'em and draw thine own skin off with 'em.

Exeunt. [Manet Deflores.]

DEFLORES
Here's a favour come with a mischief: now
I know she had rather wear my pelt tann'd
In a pair of dancing pumps than I should
Thrust my fingers into her sockets here.
I know she hates me, yet cannot choose but love her:
No matter, if but to vex her, I'll haunt her still;
Though I get nothing else, I'll have my will.

Exit.

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Bunny_boy wrote: Thu Aug 22, 2024 3:58 pm You cut out the country matters joke!
Cr*p, I totally missed that. I wasn't thinking Carry-On nearly enough.

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One reason might be the missing filters of making a name for yourself with touring for years, then getting signed, wheat from the chaff, you know.
Now you fumble it together at home and put it on the web.


Right then there should be the filter of audience taste of course..
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I found it interesting. Especially the scientific analysis of succesful Pop songs he mentions:
- decline of variety in timbre
- decline of complexity in lyrics and harmonic structure
- less dynamic range

Not sure how many of the people here watched it or only read the title.
my music:
soundcloud.com/septimon-band
blend.io/septimon

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Septimon wrote: Thu Aug 22, 2024 5:25 pm I found it interesting. Especially the scientific analysis of succesful Pop songs he mentions:
- decline of variety in timbre
- decline of complexity in lyrics and harmonic structure
- less dynamic range

Not sure how many of the people here watched it or only read the title.





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aMUSEd wrote: Thu Aug 22, 2024 2:51 pm I think it is partly the fault of the media who lavish the most ridiculous and absurd praise on modern pop musicians, I even read one Guardian reviewer seriously trying to compare Taylor Swift lyrics to Shakespeare!
id rather attend a taylor swift concert than another bloody amateur dramatic shakespeare play :x
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Septimon wrote: Thu Aug 22, 2024 5:25 pm - decline of variety in timbre
- decline of complexity in lyrics and harmonic structure
- less dynamic range
Economically optimized, just like blockbuster movies. Things will get even more interesting with AI taking over the whole process.

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Bunny_boy wrote: Thu Aug 22, 2024 6:49 pm
Septimon wrote: Thu Aug 22, 2024 5:25 pm I found it interesting. Especially the scientific analysis of succesful Pop songs he mentions:
- decline of variety in timbre
- decline of complexity in lyrics and harmonic structure
- less dynamic range

Not sure how many of the people here watched it or only read the title.




Thanks for sharing this marvelous Collection of shitty songs. (Seriously, not ironic, they are really funny)!

But I didn‘t say, every song from back in the days was awesome while every modern song was bad. The video was talking about a tendency, not every Single song but a development visible when analysing a lot of songs.
my music:
soundcloud.com/septimon-band
blend.io/septimon

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Bunny_boy wrote: Thu Aug 22, 2024 6:53 pm



I really like sons of kemet, the guy in the Video was talking about charts and mainstream music.
What he said in the end of the video was, that a lot of good bands do exist (but only very few are succesful in the Mainstream). posting these videos doesn‘t contradict to what he said.
my music:
soundcloud.com/septimon-band
blend.io/septimon

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Bunny_boy wrote: Thu Aug 22, 2024 2:58 pm This article? It's a Shakespeare professor that is quoted
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... ulum-books
Think so, I guess she was just trying to encourage younger readers to read the classics by making them relatable to someone they like. Although I can think of many singers and songwriters who are much better examples most of those (eg Joni Mitchell) are not so current, maybe she just picked what she saw as the best of a bad bunch? Does anyone even reasonably popular write decent lyrics these days (I can think of some rap artists like Lupe Fiasco but they are not 'pop')

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There’s always been a generic approach to pop music that appeals to the lowest common denominator - hence the ‘Pop’ - but in the past the popular music charts were a lot more eclectic and pop covered a wider spectrum of musical styles.
Nowadays the popular music charts - Spotify etc - have reduced that spectrum to a few genres that seem to copy whatever style is en Vogue. One has to dig deeper to find the broader spectrum of music outside of these algorithms.
There are some outrageously talented musicians out there though who are taking things to a very high level:
Louis Cole/Knower, Jacob Collier, Dirty Loops, Fizz, Snarky Puppy, Matteo Mancuso and the better know artists like Kendrick Lamar, Tyler The Creator, Lil Nas and a whole bunch of artists yet to be discovered.

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kelvyn wrote: Fri Aug 23, 2024 9:32 am There’s always been a generic approach to pop music that appeals to the lowest common denominator - hence the ‘Pop’ - but in the past the popular music charts were a lot more eclectic and pop covered a wider spectrum of musical styles.
Because the music industry hadn't figured out the hit formula back then, making them earn less (or lose more) money compared to today. In the 90s they finally did, this was the decade when things changed the most.

Another thing that changed back then was the function of music itself, it turned from a "Give me all your attention" product to convenient background noise (which was the norm for a long time). So we're actually closer to how things were more than a hundred years ago.

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modern music, is much like modern food.
if you only go for fast food, then yes, modern food, is shite.
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