Who the hell owns what now?

[Erik_Lucas]

I've been away a while. Are Izotope, Plugin Alliance and Native Instruments all in the same group of companies now? What happened and why all the changes?

Yep. They were all bought in 2021 by a multi-billion investment company called 'Francisco and partners'.

The new group was called Soundwide for a while, but this changed back to Native Instruments because NI was, and still is, market leader in this market. They just became a bit bigger now that PA and Izotope are added.

In short, the changes were because many investors saw money to be made in the music production market. There's been a lot of these kind of investment buys in the last few years : For example Avid was bought. Fender was bought and then bought Presonus. SSL was bought by a company which also bought Slate. Imageline was bought and then bought UVI. And so on. All by investment companies.

ImageLine was bought out? Source?

[DCrown]

The only really good dev was Exponential Audio imo and Izotope destroyed it

[Nug Wrangler]

I've been away a while. Are Izotope, Plugin Alliance and Native Instruments all in the same group of companies now? What happened and why all the changes?

Yep. They were all bought in 2021 by a multi-billion investment company called 'Francisco and partners'.

The new group was called Soundwide for a while, but this changed back to Native Instruments because NI was, and still is, market leader in this market. They just became a bit bigger now that PA and Izotope are added.

In short, the changes were because many investors saw money to be made in the music production market. There's been a lot of these kind of investment buys in the last few years : For example Avid was bought. Fender was bought and then bought Presonus. SSL was bought by a company which also bought Slate. Imageline was bought and then bought UVI. And so on. All by investment companies.

Imagineline was bought out? Source?

Image-Line has not been bought out as far as i know

[ghettosynth]

The only really good dev was Exponential Audio imo and Izotope destroyed it

I don't think so. If you mean out of those who have been consumed by investment groups? I find this interesting at this time, however. Just spit-balling here, but, was any of this driven by the Covid explosion? I'm probably just isolated in my own experience, but, all of these mergers have come at a time where I've lost interest in paying too much money for plugins. I think that I've purchased one, maybe two, plugins this year.

I wish that Urs would release something new and I'm always watching what Dan at Newfangled does. That's where you need to be if you want my money. Oh, if NI would double down on Reaktor, I'll not only give them money but sing their praises again.

[DCrown]

The only really good dev was Exponential Audio imo and Izotope destroyed it

I don't think so. If you mean out of those who have been consumed by investment groups? I find this interesting at this time, however. Just spit-balling here, but, was any of this driven by the Covid explosion? I'm probably just isolated in my own experience, but, all of these mergers have come at a time where I've lost interest in paying too much money for plugins. I think that I've purchased one, maybe two, plugins this year.

I wish that Urs would release something new and I'm always watching what Dan at Newfangled does. That's where you need to be if you want my money. Oh, if NI would double down on Reaktor, I'll not only give them money but sing their praises again.

Yes, only out of those, but I could also refer to reverb plugins only and think Exponential Audio are one of the best. I still use them all.

[dionenoid]

Imagineline was bought out? Source?

Image-Line has not been bought out as far as i know

Imageline was acquisitioned by Waterland in 2019. This is old news guys, surprised you didn't know about this.

[Urs]

I wish that Urs would release something new

same

[zvenx]

I wish that Urs would release something new

same

Lol.
rsp

[osiris]

GAM. (Google, Microsoft and Apple)

[muki]

been there already:
viewtopic.php?t=573633

and UVI @ imageline aka waterland
https://www.drakestar.com/our-work/drak ... L%20Studio.

https://synthanatomy.com/2023/04/image- ... loper.html

isn't arturia also somewhere in there (image-line? emz?) ?

edit:
found it: EMZ
https://emzpartners.com/emz/arturia/

[Nug Wrangler]

Imagineline was bought out? Source?

Image-Line has not been bought out as far as i know

Imageline was acquisitioned by Waterland in 2019. This is old news guys, surprised you didn't know about this.

Thanks.

[VariKusBrainZ]

They have financial backing

[jamcat]

NI should put all their ressources into Reaktor because that's what I want

Yeah, but my recollection that NI have ceased further development of Reaktor is correct, isn't it?

[Erik_Lucas]

I don't see any information about Image-line being bought out by Waterland, actually. Further research shows that it is still privately owned: https://pitchbook.com/profiles/company/223857-01

[revvy]

That’s right. Not publicly traded and now PE-funded.