Why is modern music so awful

[stoopicus]

I mean even the places people used to go are great sources of new music. For example, I follow Gary Numan and so now I know that Raven Numan has released some solo stuff that is really quite good alt-pop. YouTube simply suggested it. Thank you, algorithms



Sure, having Gary Numan as a dad is a big help (and he really did his kids a solid by getting them onstage early) but come on. It's not hard to find good new music.

(Gary's also still releasing stuff himself and it's excellent.)

And sure, this song may not be your thing, but compare it to Bunny D and Lady Tigra above and well let's just say I think the kids today are doing just fine.

[Bunny_boy]

I will defend L'Trimm to my dying day

[stoopicus]

I will defend L'Trimm to my dying day

Hahahaha like I said, I don't even think they were *bad* compared to typical pop back then, which was way worse. And both of them went on to really solid DJ careers too.

A whole lot of pop was much, much worse (like, say, the vast majority of New Jack Swing). That song was in rotation on almost all pop stations I knew of and was on the Billboard charts. Stuff like that vastly dwarfed in number what most people today consider good music from the '80s.

[seangm]

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[bermudagold]

I will defend L'Trimm to my dying day

Hahahaha like I said, I don't even think they were *bad* compared to typical pop back then, which was way worse. And both of them went on to really solid DJ careers too.

A whole lot of pop was much, much worse (like, say, the vast majority of New Jack Swing). That song was in rotation on almost all pop stations I knew of and was on the Billboard charts. Stuff like that vastly dwarfed in number what most people today consider good music from the '80s.

is there really a metric for taste when it comes to pop though?...the only requirement is catchy ear worm exuberant effervescence...for both of your examples, both miami bass and new jack swing were regional, authentic, grass roots groundswell sounds that just happened to crossover to pop...with many more serious/edgy examples...not the formulaic, derivative, turnkey music that literally treats culture and songwriting as caricatures like what I think of as the worst of records aimed at pop...stuff like

[bermudagold]

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[mjolnir]

i DO think there's something to be said about how sometimes the youth are too easily fooled by the oldest tricks in the music book, almost like getting Rick Rolled or 2g1c or something.

What people seem to call "dubstep" these days is NOT EVEN dubstep too much of the time. And so it's now impossible for them to find any good new or old dubstep because the internet music fountains are only spouting 2023 / COVID era complextro BS instead.

Just an example, that is.
Because good classic dubstep does exist, but it's so hard to find.
Even one of my favorites, Anodyne Industries, deleted his soundcloud page. So it's even that much harder to find now.

[stoopicus]

You keep calling it "pop" but it's not, it's Miami Bass/Hip hop and that was what the genre sounded like at that time. You're trying to compare apples and oranges if you compare it to the pop music of the time.

That’s because it was pop, it was simply pop Miami Bass. Which is a genre I actually liked a lot, but more for stuff like 2 Live Crew.

[Artie Fichelle]

1. to much drums and percussion
2. harmonically boring
3. the song format, who makes a piece of 20 minutes?
4. No surprises, you can tell after 10 seconds to 60 seconds what is next.

Take masters instead, how they can start with a simple theme and develop it over time.
That said, they still exist, but you have to dig first thru the mud.

[Jac459]

How boring, old people complaining about modern music. I bet there was some Neanderthal complaining about an animal skin pulled over a hollowed out log, when in his day it was good enough to just hit a tree with a rock.

LAUGHING OUT LOUD !

I couldn't agree more haha.

Why is modern music so awful?
==> Because you are old and your way of consuming music is not like it was when you were 16-18 and you are unable to find the pearl you were able to find at this time.
Period. End of story.

Also trends change because of technicalities.
Last time I was listening to some Mozart "so called" music. Mind you, this looser was appreciated in his time. But if you listen for a while, you will notice that he is always using the same boring instruments "piano, violin, and other grandpa stuffs". No wavetable, no spectral synthesis, no tasty granular effect, I couldn't hear any side chain processing neither. The instruments and effects are so lame that he is forced to use more complex and sophisticated melodies in order to catch the attention of his listeners... As I said, what a looser.
On the plus side, while the reverb seems to be the same for each track of an album, I must admit it is quite realistic, maybe he is using a new Valhalla plugin, pro R2 or a convolution reverb, I am not sure.

[Jac459]

i DO think there's something to be said about how sometimes the youth are too easily fooled by the oldest tricks in the music book, almost like getting Rick Rolled or 2g1c or something.

What people seem to call "dubstep" these days is NOT EVEN dubstep too much of the time. And so it's now impossible for them to find any good new or old dubstep because the internet music fountains are only spouting 2023 / COVID era complextro BS instead.

Just an example, that is.
Because good classic dubstep does exist, but it's so hard to find.
Even one of my favorites, Anodyne Industries, deleted his soundcloud page. So it's even that much harder to find now.

Actually my 3 teens are whipping the floor with me in overall musical culture (considering their age). Reason being when I was at my peak of listening to new stuffs, creating my tastes, full on discovering for 30 hours a week (while not working at school/university), I was needing to go to shop or buy my CD one after the other with hard earned money. A very efficient process. My kids have all the music they want at the tip of their fingers, in seconds. And as, like me, they are passionate about it, they are already blind-test killers.

[Artie Fichelle]

It is like a tomato sauce, if you don't find any you like, you have to cook your own.

[lfm]

Also trends change because of technicalities.
Last time I was listening to some Mozart "so called" music. Mind you, this looser was appreciated in his time. But if you listen for a while, you will notice that he is always using the same boring instruments "piano, violin, and other grandpa stuffs". No wavetable, no spectral synthesis, no tasty granular effect, I couldn't hear any side chain processing neither. The instruments and effects are so lame that he is forced to use more complex and sophisticated melodies in order to catch the attention of his listeners... As I said, what a looser.
On the plus side, while the reverb seems to be the same for each track of an album, I must admit it is quite realistic, maybe he is using a new Valhalla plugin, pro R2 or a convolution reverb, I am not sure.

This made my day already, and it's just breakfast time here!

[Artie Fichelle]

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Also trends change because of technicalities.
Last time I was listening to some Mozart "so called" music. Mind you, this looser was appreciated in his time. But if you listen for a while, you will notice that he is always using the same boring instruments "piano, violin, and other grandpa stuffs". No wavetable, no spectral synthesis, no tasty granular effect, I couldn't hear any side chain processing neither. The instruments and effects are so lame that he is forced to use more complex and sophisticated melodies in order to catch the attention of his listeners... As I said, what a looser.
On the plus side, while the reverb seems to be the same for each track of an album, I must admit it is quite realistic, maybe he is using a new Valhalla plugin, pro R2 or a convolution reverb, I am not sure.
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And the guy, Mozart, did not even sing his own stuff, he hired singers, what a looser!