Native Instruments - Komplete 15

[elxsound]

Strange, cause all the Reaktor-Synths are included in this list. Did they now work as VSTs? Thought they tried that and cancelled it after one Plugin.

By all accounts, the Reaktor to VST experiment is over. The question is whether NI will keep including the full Reaktor version or just Reaktor Player, which would technically be enough to run those legacy synths.

it seems that reaktor 6 full is only part of the collector edition...

Part of Collector's Edition

https://www.native-instruments.com/en/p ... reaktor-6/

Interesting. Reaktor is not listed on the comparison page but it indeed says in the collector edition on the product page.

Also interesting… The flagship list is f**king tiny.

Not surprising at all, as everything has pointed to NI being more interested in selling samples than actual new or updated products.

[PeterBPL]

Nothing really new or very interesting. More and more "press single key" toys or strange experimental sampled crap.
But I would even consider buying upgrade if they can improve Kontakt responsiveness. Cold start of Kontakt 6 takes few seconds. Kontakt 7 - about 10 seconds. There is whole thread on Native Instruments forum about crappy slow Kontakt 7 and... well, absolutely nothing happens. Someone answer that there was some secret beta, but only some users gets it. And not only Kontakt is slow. NI answer about long time loading Massive X (for example) that... 10 seconds for opening synth is perfectly acceptable and on support computer that time is the same (10 second) which is fine. Sure - fine for snails. If they do not start optimize their software, I don't want to pay for another upgrade.

[jamcat]

This makes me regret upgrading from Kontakt 6 to Kontakt 7.
Definitely didn’t get my money’s worth from that upgrade.

[jamcat]

Kontakt 5 was released September 2011
Kontakt 6 was released September 2018
Kontakt 7 was released September 2022

It went from 7 years between paid upgrades, to 4 years, to just 2 years for Kontakt 8.

And honestly, all of the changes in Kontakt 8 should have been in Kontakt 7, which was a half-measure to begin with.

[Tobi MM]

Generally, they simply should have made a cut. Tell your users to go beep themselves, throw everything legacy out, focus fully on Kontakt and maybe a few up-to-date Products and tons of libraries.

This "yeah, you can have our old stuff for free to clutter your drives, and even Reaktor" (with Collectors, if rumors are true) - thing has gone too long. Imho, time to get Komplete "inkomplete", but running flawlessly instead, would be so much better than the half-hearted crap of the few last years...

[nanostream]

it seems that reaktor 6 full is only part of the collector edition...

Part of Collector's Edition

https://www.native-instruments.com/en/p ... reaktor-6/

Ah right. Good to see Reaktor is a premium product again, supported accordingly

[Echoes in the Attic]

And no mpe for kontakt I suppose? Maybe in another ten years.

[Daru925]

They put a big focus on Massive X this time but the synth is already kind of old.
The ui picture is from an oudated version of the synth.
So i hope they will continue adding some interesting updates on the flagship synth?
I also hope kontakt 8 keeps the old kontakt rack mode and that it can properly scan my old libraries unlike 7 ^^

[Caine123]

They put a big focus on Massive X this time but the synth is already kind of old.
The ui picture is from an oudated version of the synth.
So i hope they will continue adding some interesting updates on the flagship synth?
I also hope kontakt 8 keeps the old kontakt rack mode and that it can properly scan my old libraries unlike 7 ^^

cause they got nothing new as a synth so they focus on the picture massive x which i guess has maybe new presets or even nothing else, just for newcomers to show

[Lbdunequest]

Boring update. I expected at least Reaktor 7. Gonna skip it for sure.

[ATS]

So just a new Kontakt version and some libraries and they want $500 for update lol

[bluesawsq]

And no mpe for kontakt I suppose? Maybe in another ten years.

MPE support has been there already for a long time.
There is at least one MPE enabled Kontakt instrument included in Komplete, Ashlight.
For other (editable) instruments you can enable MPE by adding a script. For example something like this:

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on init
    set_script_title("MPE")
    
    declare const $MPE_BEND_RANGE := 48
    declare ~bend_factor
    ~bend_factor := (int_to_real($MPE_BEND_RANGE * 1000) / 8191.0) * 100.0
    
    declare ui_label $label_pressure (2, 1)
    set_text($label_pressure, "Pressure -> From Script 1")
    declare ui_label $label_slide (2,1)
    set_text($label_slide, "Slide -> From Script 2")
    
    move_control($label_pressure, 1, 1)
    move_control($label_slide, 1, 2)
    
end on

on note 
    set_event_mark($EVENT_ID, sh_left($MARK_2, $MIDI_CHANNEL))
    change_tune(by_marks(sh_left($MARK_2, $MIDI_CHANNEL)), ...
                    real_to_int(int_to_real(%CC[$VCC_PITCH_BEND]) * ~bend_factor), 0)
    set_event_par_arr(by_marks(sh_left($MARK_2, $MIDI_CHANNEL)), ...
                  $EVENT_PAR_MOD_VALUE_ID, ...
                  %CC[$VCC_MONO_AT] * 7874, 1)
    set_event_par_arr(by_marks(sh_left($MARK_2, $MIDI_CHANNEL)), ...
                  $EVENT_PAR_MOD_VALUE_ID, ...
                  %CC[74] * 7874, 2)
end on

on controller
    if ($CC_NUM = $VCC_MONO_AT)
        ignore_controller
        set_event_par_arr(by_marks(sh_left($MARK_2, $MIDI_CHANNEL)), ...
                          $EVENT_PAR_MOD_VALUE_ID, ...
                          %CC[$CC_NUM] * 7874, 1)
    end if
    
    if ($CC_NUM = 74)
        ignore_controller
        set_event_par_arr(by_marks(sh_left($MARK_2, $MIDI_CHANNEL)), ...
                          $EVENT_PAR_MOD_VALUE_ID, ...
                          %CC[$CC_NUM] * 7874, 2)
    end if
    
    if ($CC_NUM = $VCC_PITCH_BEND)
        {message("pb")}
        ignore_controller
        change_tune(by_marks(sh_left($MARK_2, $MIDI_CHANNEL)), ...
                    real_to_int(int_to_real(%CC[$CC_NUM]) * ~bend_factor), 0)
    end if
end on

[jules99]

it seems that reaktor 6 full is only part of the collector edition...

Part of Collector's Edition

https://www.native-instruments.com/en/p ... reaktor-6/

Ah right. Good to see Reaktor is a premium product again, supported accordingly

In a long line of odd moves, this one is even odder: Reaktor has been part of Komplete Standard and Komplete Ultimate forever, why move it to CE only? If anyone is considering getting Reaktor now, Thomann has a bundle with it, Massive and a couple of other synths for a mere 70 euros on sale right now.

[noiseboyuk]

it seems that reaktor 6 full is only part of the collector edition...

Part of Collector's Edition

https://www.native-instruments.com/en/p ... reaktor-6/

Ah right. Good to see Reaktor is a premium product again, supported accordingly

In a long line of odd moves, this one is even odder: Reaktor has been part of Komplete Standard and Komplete Ultimate forever, why move it to CE only? If anyone is considering getting Reaktor now, Thomann has a bundle with it, Massive and a couple of other synths for a mere 70 euros on sale right now.

I strongly suspect this is a website error. It's not mentioned anywhere on the Komplete 15 page, nor in the comparison table. So 100% there's been an error somewhere - let's see if that banner disappears in the next 24-48 hours, or if Reaktor appears in the main Komplete page.

[.jon]

It's all over for NI. Sad day, Reaktor will be missed.

I need to start learning M4L, and maybe look at VCV for modular stuff. Garbage.