fiedler audio splat - New! @plugin alliance

[plexuss]

This is a very cool spacial tool. It's worth taking a look at. I tried the demo and am impressed with the sound: its very fat and "spatial" with a nice over-all sound.

It's on intro sale for $49 (reg $99). There is a $20 intro price for customers that own one of: bx_delay2500, bx_panEQ, bx_rooMS, bx_steromaker, fiedler audio stage, Mäag Audio Magnum-K.

https://www.plugin-alliance.com/en/prod ... splat.html

From PA's site:
splat is the ultimate placement tool. Harness the Haas Effect to deliver width, depth, and creative effects to mono instruments and live performances – quickly, easily, and with unprecedented control.

The fattest, widest sound
splat utilizes the Haas Effect to go beyond pot-panning, using delay instead of gain to broaden the sweet spot in your mix and deliver a profound sense of spaciousness without destroying your phase or causing comb filtering issues.

Breathe life into your instruments
Give your instruments and vocals energy and vibrancy. Double track in perfect harmony and make your tracks fat with complete control of your stereo image.

Bring depth to mono
splat is one of the only Haas Effect plugins that allows you to balance mono compatibility. It eliminates the tradeoff between mono and stereo processing techniques. Seamlessly integrate advanced stereo widening techniques with traditional mono processing. Bring a new sense of depth to your tracks and live performances.

Use creative spatial effects
Utilize the LFO section to create unique sonic effects and flavors. Give your tracks some ear candy and the power to mesmerize with a wide range of modular effects. The LFO section can be used to create chorus, flanger, detuner, and harmonizer effects. There’s also a smooth saw-tooth LFO for eliminating any unwanted clicks.

The perfect live sound for the whole crowd
splat offers sophisticated panning controls that enhance your live sets and ensure everyone in your audience can perfectly hear all sides of the mix, regardless of where they are standing. Carve out space in real-time with zero latency for great live performances. Adapt and experiment in a whole new sonic space.

Features
Flavor, spread, and depth parameters for total control of the panning/stereoizer effect
Delay-based panner using the Haas Effect
Phase switches for left and right channels
Filter section for precise spectrum targeting with splat
Create chorus, flanging, detuning, and harmonizer effects with LFO section
Stereo section with Mid/Side and pan controls
Zero latency

[martinjuenke]

"It's on intro sale for $49 (reg $99). There is a $20 intro price for customers that own one of: bx_delay2500, bx_panEQ, bx_rooMS, bx_steromaker, fiedler audio stage, Mäag Audio Magnum-K."
Not for me.
It's 29.99 based on bx_delay2500 only,
despite having other ones from your list as well...

[jens]

Typical Fiedler - sounds decidedly meh...

[holmer]

So that's a Haas Effect?
Or anything more than that?

[jens]

Yeah, it's a rather basic (bog-standard) delay macro, as you can hear in their (longer) video...

[Dr.Gunjah]

The advertising says it handles mono compatibility (whatever that means) which most haas effects don't

[holmer]

The advertising says it handles mono compatibility (whatever that means)

I guess it means the stereo signal doesn't cancel itself out when played on a mono device.

You guys know this?
https://polyversemusic.com/products/wider/
Works great as far as I can tell, and is mono compatible.

[jens]

The advertising says it handles mono compatibility (whatever that means) which most haas effects don't

Sure they do - no problem at all. E.g. the free Readelay will do just fine.

[muki]

You guys know this?
https://polyversemusic.com/products/wider/
Works great as far as I can tell, and is mono compatible.

+1
(and yes: mono compatible)

[billinder33]

These devices may all be 'mono compatible', but folks who use these kinds of plugins should definitely do mono checks before printing (should be done regardless of whether you're using wideners or not). In general, the harder these plugins are pushed, the weaker the affected signal becomes when summed to mono regardless of compatibility claims.

When Polyverse Wider first came out, I had it all over a few tracks in pre-production. Sounded great. Then right before final print I did a mono check and was like "Hell NO!". Removed all instances of it on all tracks and had a lot of remixing to do. And since then it's collected dust in my VST folders along with most other widening tools that I've accumulated over the years.

Not that there's no use case for these kinds of plugins, but just because a plugin is advertised as "mono compatible" doesn't mean it's going to perfectly collapse to mono like you hear it in stereo. Best to proceed with caution on these and always check mono when you use them to make sure you're not weakening mono compatibility.

[ericzang]

When I think of a widener as "mono compatible" I associate that with the effect canceling itself out in mono, therefor retaining the original sound of the source, and is usually the behavior I want. In my tests so far, Splat does not do that and thus colors or may weaken the sound of the original (and itself) in mono.

On the other hand, Fiedler's Stage plugin can cancel itself when summed to mono and the effect can sound very natural in stereo. Melda's MStereoSpread also cancel's itself in mono.

[Dr.Gunjah]

I guess it means the stereo signal doesn't cancel itself out when played on a mono device.

yeah certainly, but I wonder how a haas effect can ever be mono compatible.

Wider is ok, but it often sounds fake. Hit and miss for me

[Funky40]

Can´t say if it was wasted money. ....quick jumper sometimes

it has some additional controls. i finally like that.
I just had a good time to just enhance the Bass on my Piano with it.
Personally, i totally don´t care for mono compatibility. Since i do not produce.
If i did, that would be same. But i see the point where it certainly counts

it made the low notes on the Piano slightly smear.
Gave it a rounder slightly softer sound, while making the Bass fuller at the same time thanks to the onboard EQ and its setting. ( was a Bass preset)
Different than just adding an EQ ( at least with my hands).
Quite useful for such things.
So i guess, i´m fine.........

[jens]

These devices may all be 'mono compatible', but folks who use these kinds of plugins should definitely do mono checks before printing (should be done regardless of whether you're using wideners or not). In general, the harder these plugins are pushed, the weaker the affected signal becomes when summed to mono regardless of compatibility claims.

When Polyverse Wider first came out, I had it all over a few tracks in pre-production. Sounded great. Then right before final print I did a mono check and was like "Hell NO!". Removed all instances of it on all tracks and had a lot of remixing to do. And since then it's collected dust in my VST folders along with most other widening tools that I've accumulated over the years.

Not that there's no use case for these kinds of plugins, but just because a plugin is advertised as "mono compatible" doesn't mean it's going to perfectly collapse to mono like you hear it in stereo. Best to proceed with caution on these and always check mono when you use them to make sure you're not weakening mono compatibility.

Yeah - I would have thought the generally-agreed upon definition of "mono-compatability" is that summing both channels doesn't lead to the process causing the program material to nigh dissappear, not that it'd sound the same as if the process wasn't applied to begin with.

[sguyader]

I quickly compared Splat with a few other wideners, including PA's own Stereomaker, and Splat sounded the most pleasing to me. I don't like most of the presets which sound more like special FX, but starting from zero it's pretty cool as long as you don't pay the full price.
Though, I haven't checked how it sounds in mono.