So, with it's release, is SynthMaster 3 the new reigning Super Synth?

[VELLTONE MUSIC]

made a few songs with SM2 back in the day. it was fun. maybe i should try SM3.

plugin very good, buy now

That's your trade mark joke Martiu.buy now
I am so blown away with this synth now,start to rebuild my old presets with sm3 and 90% of them immediately sounds better,but after adding extra osc ,ilters,modulators,so on the sound is so much more massive and pro,unbelievable.
Serious upgrade.

[martiu]

i am actually impressed by the update, very capable synth and the UI is well put together

[audiojunkie]

...and regarding your copy protection, @Kv331?

SynthMaster 3 refreshes license key file when

1. computer name / computer identification changes
2. user downloaded license key from our website file via email

…but, does the plugin tie itself to any system components or does it use the internet to talk to the company to authenticate the software?

The important thing for many of us is being able to authenticate the plugin on a new machine if the company were to close down.

[kv331]

The important thing for many of us is being able to authenticate the plugin on a new machine if the company were to close down.

If the website is down, you can carry over your older license key file to you new machine, and that would work.

[audiojunkie]

The important thing for many of us is being able to authenticate the plugin on a new machine if the company were to close down.

If the website is down, you can carry over your older license key file to you new machine, and that would work.

Thank you for this information!!

[VELLTONE MUSIC]

Till recently i mentioned in few topics,that new standard for modern subtractive synth should be minimum 4 osc and 4 filters,so to have solid modern sound,but that was just my opinion...
Now i can say ,it's mandatory to have 4 osc minimum to have solid sound,cause you can cover some details about character and presence with external fx,but if internal structur doesn't have capability to build massive sonic stream with a lot of harmonics from let say 8-9 osc,nothing can cover that.
Made a single viola preset with 9osc and 10 filters and this is how it sounds (it's not advertising,just sample of something i did with sm3 )

https://soundcloud.com/velislavelikov/a ... undset-sm3

[ThomasHelzle]

You forgot to mention phase plant which is an absolute beast and has a perfect UI in terms of efficiency and usability.
SM3 blows it underwater for presets...

Your comment on Avenger and VPS being weird is understandable, but since V2, I considere it to be weirdly awesomely sounding, with an awesome UI, awesome features and awesome presets... Ymmv...

First, my post of course reflects my own ears and views only - I do not claim to represent anybody else

I did not "forget" Phase Plant, I just never looked deeper into it since I neither like the UI nor the sounds I heard. Like with the highly praised Serum, something is missing for me soundwise and it feels sterile.

With SM3, every sound I create speaks to me, which otherwise rarely happens with "normal" synths. I usually react the most to physical modelling like Respiro, Plasmonic or AAS StringStudio and Chromaphone or the fantastic Osmose/EaganMatrix (my GF has one).
I'm also fading out 95% of my sample based instruments over the last couple of years.

Funny enough, SM3 is the first "Behemoth" synth that does not feel like one to me.
You can do a one-osc one-filter sound on one page and all is right there at hand. Or you can dive into the rabbit hole as deep as you like. It feels neither in the way nor limiting.

I personally want to be able to connect to the companies behind the software I work with and VPS is very far away from what I find enjoyable and a lot of their interaction is cringeworthy.
I should never have bought Avenger in the first place and definitely won't update to 2.x.
That's also why I fade out NI, no longer use any Waves, Steinberg, IK, Air... stuff and sold Ableton Live at version 8.
Certain experiences and energies I do not need in my life.

YMMV

[Seelachsfilet]

Dont think so, way too much menu diving and also I wonder how many people actually want layers in their synths.... in terms of user-friendliness, in my opinion it doesnt stand a chance againsts something like Pigments or Phase Plant.

[Jac459]

You forgot to mention phase plant which is an absolute beast and has a perfect UI in terms of efficiency and usability.
SM3 blows it underwater for presets...

Your comment on Avenger and VPS being weird is understandable, but since V2, I considere it to be weirdly awesomely sounding, with an awesome UI, awesome features and awesome presets... Ymmv...

First, my post of course reflects my own ears and views only - I do not claim to represent anybody else

I did not "forget" Phase Plant, I just never looked deeper into it since I neither like the UI nor the sounds I heard. Like with the highly praised Serum, something is missing for me soundwise and it feels sterile.

With SM3, every sound I create speaks to me, which otherwise rarely happens with "normal" synths. I usually react the most to physical modelling like Respiro, Plasmonic or AAS StringStudio and Chromaphone or the fantastic Osmose/EaganMatrix (my GF has one).
I'm also fading out 95% of my sample based instruments over the last couple of years.

Funny enough, SM3 is the first "Behemoth" synth that does not feel like one to me.
You can do a one-osc one-filter sound on one page and all is right there at hand. Or you can dive into the rabbit hole as deep as you like. It feels neither in the way nor limiting.

I personally want to be able to connect to the companies behind the software I work with and VPS is very far away from what I find enjoyable and a lot of their interaction is cringeworthy.
I should never have bought Avenger in the first place and definitely won't update to 2.x.
That's also why I fade out NI, no longer use any Waves, Steinberg, IK, Air... stuff and sold Ableton Live at version 8.
Certain experiences and energies I do not need in my life.

YMMV

Of course, and I actually appreciate your view.

Plus, I can''t disagree with somebody fan of physical modeliing, I am totally agreeing with you there (fan of object and friktion here).

I guess it is really why I don't think there is one synth on which everybody will click with, we have all different tastes (and if you only avenger 1, I understand your point of view, there is very much a big big gap between both).

Ok, back to playing with SM3 now...

[Biome_Digital]

I think Synthmaster 3 sounds great and is very powerful now. I was part of the sound design and you'll find 50 new presets from New Loops and my audio demo. The synths GUI is a big improvement and really nice to use. There are also a lot of very good presets from the other sound designers too, some really nice ones!

The new "New Loops" presets are mainly based on our own custom audio samples for uniqueness, and also the new granular and VA oscillators. Please check them out and enjoy.

[audiojunkie]

Dont think so, way too much menu diving and also I wonder how many people actually want layers in their synths.... in terms of user-friendliness, in my opinion it doesnt stand a chance againsts something like Pigments or Phase Plant.

As for layers, you can either layer multiple synths together in your DAW, or you can layer synths in your plugin. Both have their benefits. In the case of layers "within" a plugin, the benefit is that you can save your creation as a preset for use in other projects. That is the chief benefit--presets. If none of that matters to you, then layers won't be important. If it matters though, it is a pretty important thing. I personally like the option to save my layered creations as presets within the plugin.

[audiojunkie]

How are the oscillators and filters in SM3, compared to some of the plugins known for great oscillators and filters?

[Jac459]

Dont think so, way too much menu diving and also I wonder how many people actually want layers in their synths.... in terms of user-friendliness, in my opinion it doesnt stand a chance againsts something like Pigments or Phase Plant.

As for layers, you can either layer multiple synths together in your DAW, or you can layer synths in your plugin. Both have their benefits. In the case of layers "within" a plugin, the benefit is that you can save your creation as a preset for use in other projects. That is the chief benefit--presets. If none of that matters to you, then layers won't be important. If it matters though, it is a pretty important thing. I personally like the option to save my layered creations as presets within the plugin.

You can also save your layered preset in your DAW...

I think layering is also about being in the same window or having to do back and forth... Some people mind... I don't.

[VELLTONE MUSIC]

Inside the DAW environment could be made a lot,but you need huge libraries with sounds and to spend years with them ,so to know what you have and to mix with fantasy,when inside the synth experienced designer can do fresh sound in seconds.
It seeem nobody note what i said above and will double it,cause it's important - you can't build with one or two osc harmonic diversity and full spectrum 'picture' as you gonna make it with 10osc and 10 filters for example.
It's just way more rich and full sound across entire audible spectrum with so many harmonic particles completing each other...if you do it right,otherwise it's big mess
Single layer with many osc,filters,modulators in sm3 could be rich enough so to sound super massive,but multi layer structure has some advantages if you wanna complex preset with different functions and instruments playing together, pressing one key.
Not sure what it is,technology evolution maybe,but sm3 has really dope sound and endless possibilities to shape everything - compared to old versions is level up - this one is subtractive terminator,T1000 the bad terminator :):)

[audiojunkie]

Dont think so, way too much menu diving and also I wonder how many people actually want layers in their synths.... in terms of user-friendliness, in my opinion it doesnt stand a chance againsts something like Pigments or Phase Plant.

As for layers, you can either layer multiple synths together in your DAW, or you can layer synths in your plugin. Both have their benefits. In the case of layers "within" a plugin, the benefit is that you can save your creation as a preset for use in other projects. That is the chief benefit--presets. If none of that matters to you, then layers won't be important. If it matters though, it is a pretty important thing. I personally like the option to save my layered creations as presets within the plugin.

You can also save your layered preset in your DAW...

I think layering is also about being in the same window or having to do back and forth... Some people mind... I don't.

I considered that, but if you use multiple DAWs, you can't transfer your "DAW Preset" of your layered instruments to a different DAW.