Favorite granular effect?

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noiseresearch wrote: Fri Sep 06, 2024 2:16 pm I use autochroma a lot. In fact it's my favourite granular effect. Well thought out product and very musical.
I'm going to try the demo, but if you don't mind what do you feel sets it apart from the other granular plugins?

I currently have Fragments, Granulizer, Love and Silo.

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chrisstiles wrote: Fri Sep 06, 2024 2:29 pm
noiseresearch wrote: Fri Sep 06, 2024 2:16 pm I use autochroma a lot. In fact it's my favourite granular effect. Well thought out product and very musical.
I'm going to try the demo, but if you don't mind what do you feel sets it apart from the other granular plugins?

I currently have Fragments, Granulizer, Love and Silo.
Autochroma is a solid, simple, straight forward, and very reasonably priced granular engine to have. It's got a great interface, three engines, and so simple to use.

I feel like where other granular plug-ins kind of spit out grains sort of randomly as par for the course to be fed into pitch shifting, reverb, and reversed, autochroma is more like "no, I want to grab these specific grains in this specific time pocket" and then do whatever with them.

With it's interface, it almost seems like a sort of "Mini-DAW" in how you can see with visual feedback what grains are playing back from the real time updated waveform display, how they are playing back, and how your parameter tweaks influence that.

IMO it's the absolute best "utilitarian" granular tool, and you can pretty much replicate what all the other granular plug-ins do by combining autochroma with 3rd party plug-ins, with autochroma being a very solid and specific granular engine at the heart of the sound design.

I use autochroma a ton for a simple "realtime reverse" delay setup because it's so easy to set it up for things like that.

Absolutely a steal at 40 bucks.

Cheers
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Funk Dracula wrote: Fri Sep 06, 2024 10:32 pm Autochroma is a solid, simple, straight forward, and very reasonably priced granular engine to have. It's got a great interface, three engines, and so simple to use.

I feel like where other granular plug-ins kind of spit out grains sort of randomly as par for the course to be fed into pitch shifting, reverb, and reversed, autochroma is more like "no, I want to grab these specific grains in this specific time pocket" and then do whatever with them.
Thanks - I ended up getting it after trialling. I like it a lot because as you say the three playheads + freeze give a fair amount of scope for scrubbing through audio to find a place to generate grains from.

It's a nice interface once you figure out what it's displaying - although IMO the mod system could do with a bit of work re clarity.

FWIW only found out about it when I happened to see an ad for it in facebook mobile - with an aug2024 code which gave me a $8 discount.

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chrisstiles wrote: Sat Sep 07, 2024 9:08 am It's a nice interface once you figure out what it's displaying - although IMO the mod system could do with a bit of work re clarity.
Not really familiarized with autochrome's mod system because as a Bitwig user I always assume Bitwig's modulations are going to be way better than any mod system a plug-in would offer. So if I see a plug-in has "an LFO or two" I'm like "oh, that's cute" and just ignore them and open Bitwig's mods haha.

Cheers
"music is the best"

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I think no one has mentioned Emergence:
https://www.pluginboutique.com/products/8397-Emergence

Forgive me if they have

I love it.

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Funk Dracula wrote: Sat Sep 07, 2024 9:20 am Not really familiarized with autochrome's mod system because as a Bitwig user I always assume Bitwig's modulations are going to be way better than any mod system a plug-in would offer. So if I see a plug-in has "an LFO or two" I'm like "oh, that's cute" and just ignore them and open Bitwig's mods haha.
Yeah fair enough, though it's normally easier to use the in-plugin mod sources for interior controls.

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Beam by lunacy audio has a grain module.

In fact it has 3 of them along with up to three convolution reverbs and three filters which can be routed in pretty much any configuration you want.

The granular section has some nice features like incorporating a delay and a pitch shifter that can arpeggiate grains while adhering to a scale.

Beam is a fantastic and versatile effect and the fact that it’s drop dead gorgeous to look is also a bonus.

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Funk Dracula wrote: Fri Sep 06, 2024 10:32 pm
chrisstiles wrote: Fri Sep 06, 2024 2:29 pm
noiseresearch wrote: Fri Sep 06, 2024 2:16 pm I use autochroma a lot. In fact it's my favourite granular effect. Well thought out product and very musical.

I feel like where other granular plug-ins kind of spit out grains sort of randomly as par for the course to be fed into pitch shifting, reverb, and reversed, autochroma is more like "no, I want to grab these specific grains in this specific time pocket" and then do whatever with them.

I'm looking for something that is quite 'bendy' and malleable to use with samples - would autochroma fit that bill? more for interesting monophonic basslines

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Like Silo quite a bit although can be a bit clicky with any number of settings. The reverb bit is slightly lacklustre too. Fragments is probably the best granular effect I've got- very easy to use if you're familiar with how Arturia UI their products. But quite high CPU which makes me use it sparingly..

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Funk Dracula wrote: Sat Sep 07, 2024 9:20 am
chrisstiles wrote: Sat Sep 07, 2024 9:08 am It's a nice interface once you figure out what it's displaying - although IMO the mod system could do with a bit of work re clarity.
Not really familiarized with autochrome's mod system because as a Bitwig user I always assume Bitwig's modulations are going to be way better than any mod system a plug-in would offer. So if I see a plug-in has "an LFO or two" I'm like "oh, that's cute" and just ignore them and open Bitwig's mods haha.

Cheers

Likewise but unless the plugin is CLAP, modulation is going to be global/monophonic. This isn't necessarily a problem but does limit usage somewhat. But it's great with my Argon8 which had limited modulation options and only one polyphonic LFO. Anyway, I digress....

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I'm still waiting (hoping actually!) for https://valhalladsp.com/ to do a granular FX plugin :)
Imho, it would be a very nice addition to the kind of plugins he has already.
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