NI Reaktor, I forgot how awesome it is

[EvilDragon]

I was under the impression that the reaktor community was super massive.

It actually isn't. It is very passionate, though.

[soulelle]

Why is everyone crying wolf? Reaktor is not discontinued.

You can still buy it...

And if you take a look in the Komplete comparison chart, it is still there, under Legendary Synthesizers.

Because it's essentially been discontinued as a flagship DSP platform and demoted to a legendary synth.
Call it a conspiracy theory, but it looks like a "clever" move from the marketing side - first it's gone completely -> community starts crying -> then it magically reappears -> community is happy
but the reality is that it's back as a different entity.

It's a pity to kill it. There's certainly more to add to Reaktor Core. But given how long its development has been neglected and ignored by the company, not at all surprising that Reaktor is now just a synth(((

[RobGee]

In a way I’m just thankful that’s it’s not been discontinued yet. I hoping they add interface scaling at some point, it’s sort of implemented in the standalone version where it follows windows scaling settings but there’s a bug with it in the VST version related to connections/cables.

[Daru925]

As long as i can use Molekular and these neat trk modules i'll be happy.

[BBFG#]

All indications are that it is discontinued on their end and that they're just squeezing what they can out of the market tube before they let that market realize it.

It is the poster child of "technical debt". While it has some really good things requiring it, it's also overly inundated with less than useful, often meh distractions eating server requirements to download them.

[bungle]

Best thing NI could do is to fully support Reaktor porting to M+, and then just market it as the ultimate add on for M+.

[Greenstorm33]

I can only imagine how enormously complex and expensive to maintain the codebase is, and none of their efforts with it seem to have generated much interest (blocks being the latest, but there aren't really very many paid third-party ensembles at all and I rarely even see people talking about the ones that NI themselves offer). NI has been making some highly questionable decisions for quite a while, but in this case I can hardly blame them if they do indeed discontinue it in the near future. I'll be disappointed to see it go though.

[Shabdahbriah]

I agree with the previous poster, that, at some point, they will discontinue Reaktor. I would also LOVE to be wrong. I would LOVE to see a big update. I would LOVE to have an excuse to upgrade Komplete. I don't think that any of that will happen. I also think that, to the extent that this might have been a marketing "error," it still reflects how NI thinks about Reaktor. [...] Their choice of language couldn't be more clear. Reaktor is not a "flagship" but Kontakt, Massive X, Guitar Rig Pro, and Ozone Standard are.

O.k. Sorry. I should have been less triggered by the negativity of a few people, and said "quell the speculation", rather than "shut up". I'm seeing your point(s), particularly from the perspective of those who have invested in "Komplete", which I never have. I got into Reaktor with Generator, Dynamo and then Generator II and Reaktor II (respectively), and simply picked up other things (Kontakt/Battery, etc) that appealed to me as they came out, or it proved convenient like this last $19 sale, where I picked up a couple of things. .... carry on.

[ghettosynth]

I can only imagine how enormously complex and expensive to maintain the codebase is, and none of their efforts with it seem to have generated much interest (blocks being the latest, but there aren't really very many paid third-party ensembles at all and I rarely even see people talking about the ones that NI themselves offer). NI has been making some highly questionable decisions for quite a while, but in this case I can hardly blame them if they do indeed discontinue it in the near future. I'll be disappointed to see it go though.

So, I've looked into this. I think that there's a good reason, the barrier to entry and resulting risk are just too high. You essentially have to negotiate your license purchases up front and you price is a function of that negotiation. Even for Kontakt, the number of player products is dwarfed by the number of non-player products. There is a key difference here though. With Kontakt you can at least lock/password protect your scripts. There is no such ability to lock modules/macros in Reaktor unless you work with NI to make a Reaktor Player instrument.

Basically, it's expensive and a hassle to release a Reaktor Player product.

[trusampler]

Still waiting for a polyphonic Moog/ Monark from NI

[EvilDragon]

then Generator II and Reaktor II (respectively)

Generator 2 never existed. I think you meant Transformator. Then Generator and Transformator merged into Reaktor 2.

[gentleclockdivider]

Good ol reaktor 2 green gui , loved it

[Shabdahbriah]

then Generator II and Reaktor II (respectively)

Generator 2 never existed. I think you meant Transformator. Then Generator and Transformator merged into Reaktor 2.

Hmmm, that could well be. Maybe went from Gen 1.0 to Gen 1.5. Recalled (IIRC) two different discs/installs, like a year or so apart. Those discs with the (can't be copied) holes/pits! Got the full Reaktor pretty soon (a month or so) after Dynamo (which was a cheaper entry point), so it's all kind of a blur at this point.

Good ol reaktor 2 green gui , loved it

Bordering on "institutional green", no less. It worked though.

[machinesworking]

I'm going to make the prediction that Reaktor will still be here in 5 years, as long as NI is here.

I don't think it has insurmountable technical debt, it's on Apple Silicon natively FFS? Whether or not it gets a resizable GUI is another story, but I just don't see NI throwing away Reaktor, Kontakt or Maschine any time soon. Everyone and their mother read far too much into an NI forum post about Reaktor development, and here we are.

[EvilDragon]

It does have a ridiculous amount of tech debt. The fact that it was somehow made to work on Apple Silicon doesn't mean there's no tech debt