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EvilDragon wrote: Sat Sep 07, 2024 8:43 pm It does have a ridiculous amount of tech debt. The fact that it was somehow made to work on Apple Silicon doesn't mean there's no tech debt :)
What I'm getting at is it's nothing to keep it from being supported for years to come. Absynth very obviously has GUI issues on Apple Silicon, (the Rosetta AU GUI is near unusable) so even if NI never updated the core code they would have had to rewrite the GUI, no small task.

So you're fanning the flame of deprecation or just acknowledging that it's not going to get any updates any time soon? You're the only person here with anything like insider knowledge here.

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It's not likely it will get any updates any time soon.

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I really, really hope NI doesn't axe Reaktor. In fact, it should adopt some third-party modules and make them more user-friendly by enlarging the controls and labeling them more appropriately.

It's incredibly useful and would be a stupid, stupid thing to let go.

I would really like software companies to express a little more belief in their products and stop trying to cater to the lowest common denominator reflexively. We can walk and chew gum: if a highly useful product isn't as popular as it could be, it's almost always a user interface issue, and those mistakes should be identified and addressed rather than letting "tech debt" be an excuse for jettisoning the mostly quality fruits of thousands of hours of development time.

The quickest way to kill an audio software company is to allow the suits who don't actually use the software make the "tough decisions" about what to support and what not to. Passionate users of the actual software should be making those calls and the c-suite should trust them enough to believe in the potential they claim is there.
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I think Blocks was NIs attempt to address the UI issues of Reaktor and this doesn't seem to have really breathed much more life into it.

There is a distinction between people who love synths and people who like patching virtual modulars. I enjoy both but there comes a point with modular when it just doesn't feel like music anymore. The subset of people who really love patching modulsrs is probably far outweighed by those who just wanna use great sounding gear and make sounds. It doesn't surprise me that Reaktor has fallen out of favour. I'm still glad it exists and I can smash a whole bunch of Toybox modules together into something unique.

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trusampler wrote: Sat Sep 07, 2024 8:36 am Still waiting for a polyphonic Moog/ Monark from NI ;)
You can do that yourself, if you own Monark and a full version of Reaktor:
https://www.reddit.com/r/edmproduction/ ... i/jh4qwhf/

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I had come across someone’s website where they kept a compiled list of their favourite reaktor ensembles with a short description of each, there must have been like 30-40 entries and looked like it was still getting updated. I accidentally closed the tab where I had with it open and for the life of me I can’t rediscover it no matter how hard I sort through google results. He may of even been a creator himself, but I’m not 100% sure.

Does anyone have any idea what web page I’m referencing?

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darkydisco wrote: Mon Sep 09, 2024 1:16 pm I had come across someone’s website where they kept a compiled list of their favourite reaktor ensembles with a short description of each, there must have been like 30-40 entries and looked like it was still getting updated. I accidentally closed the tab where I had with it open and for the life of me I can’t rediscover it no matter how hard I sort through google results. He may of even been a creator himself, but I’m not 100% sure.

Does anyone have any idea what web page I’m referencing?
https://intrancersonic-ds.blogspot.com/ ... .html#enst
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martiu wrote: Mon Sep 09, 2024 1:29 pm
darkydisco wrote: Mon Sep 09, 2024 1:16 pm I had come across someone’s website where they kept a compiled list of their favourite reaktor ensembles with a short description of each, there must have been like 30-40 entries and looked like it was still getting updated. I accidentally closed the tab where I had with it open and for the life of me I can’t rediscover it no matter how hard I sort through google results. He may of even been a creator himself, but I’m not 100% sure.

Does anyone have any idea what web page I’m referencing?
https://intrancersonic-ds.blogspot.com/ ... .html#enst
Dayum that was fast, martiu you’re like the Reaktor guru. (Even though you no longer use it haha) it is pretty overwhelming, I go back and forth on wether I want to give up on it or not.

There’s just so much and I feel like it’s impossible to learn it well with such limited time available in one’s adult life. Then I’ll use something in a tune that works well and think to myself, “how could I ever get rid of this thing?”

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it is amazing piece of software but it is very overwhelming for me, i had a folder with 900 ensembles at one point and i made myself over 70 from blocks and modifying existing ensembles (like putting reverbs and comb filters on Drone-E)
now i like to use just a couple of synths and think what i can do to get the sounds that i want out of them
adding effects and so on
it is more fun for me :hug:
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darkydisco wrote: Mon Sep 09, 2024 1:16 pm I had come across someone’s website where they kept a compiled list of their favourite reaktor ensembles with a short description of each, there must have been like 30-40 entries and looked like it was still getting updated. I accidentally closed the tab where I had with it open and for the life of me I can’t rediscover it no matter how hard I sort through google results. He may of even been a creator himself, but I’m not 100% sure.

Does anyone have any idea what web page I’m referencing?
have you checked your web browser's history list? it should show all websites you have visited recently.

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sl1914 wrote: Mon Sep 09, 2024 2:21 pm
darkydisco wrote: Mon Sep 09, 2024 1:16 pm I had come across someone’s website where they kept a compiled list of their favourite reaktor ensembles with a short description of each, there must have been like 30-40 entries and looked like it was still getting updated. I accidentally closed the tab where I had with it open and for the life of me I can’t rediscover it no matter how hard I sort through google results. He may of even been a creator himself, but I’m not 100% sure.

Does anyone have any idea what web page I’m referencing?
have you checked your web browser's history list? it should show all websites you have visited recently.
It was a tab I had open for a very long time, so despite searching through history and recently closed pages I just couldn’t find it. The page Matriu listed above though was the one.

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nusound mind wrote: Tue Dec 26, 2023 7:43 pm
In any case, poking around on the Reaktor user library pages @ NI I came across this, Idk if it's been mentioned yet. Doesn't come with many presets but maybe that's a good thing in some ways but regardless, it sounds amazing.

Atmorph RMX + MB https://www.native-instruments.com/en/r ... how/13093/
stumble upon this today great find. :tu: :hug:
I make electronic music - DAW of choice : Live 12 :hug:

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DrWashington wrote: Sun Sep 08, 2024 12:53 am I really, really hope NI doesn't axe Reaktor. In fact, it should adopt some third-party modules and make them more user-friendly by enlarging the controls and labeling them more appropriately.

It's incredibly useful and would be a stupid, stupid thing to let go.

I would really like software companies to express a little more belief in their products and stop trying to cater to the lowest common denominator reflexively. We can walk and chew gum: if a highly useful product isn't as popular as it could be, it's almost always a user interface issue, and those mistakes should be identified and addressed rather than letting "tech debt" be an excuse for jettisoning the mostly quality fruits of thousands of hours of development time.

The quickest way to kill an audio software company is to allow the suits who don't actually use the software make the "tough decisions" about what to support and what not to. Passionate users of the actual software should be making those calls and the c-suite should trust them enough to believe in the potential they claim is there.
Ignoring tech debt in order to "get something out" and other forms of short term thinking have been the downfall of many software companies. The product people will usually tell you "noone cares about clean code" but actually they do care about things that stem from clean code which is your software continuing to work in changing circumstances.

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