iLoK is broken on all Ryzen 9000 series processors

[Gavincoolguy]

Hopefully I am able to save someone from the full work week of hours I just lost. iLoK is completely broken on all new Ryzen 9000 series processors. They have produced a hot fix that kind of works with UAD plugins and that's about it. You can read more at:
https://help.ilok.com/faq_ilm.html#amd_zen_5

You will see that they seem to wash their hands of the issue and place the blame on AMD.

[uOpt]

Their bug claim would be a lot more convincing if they stated any details on it.

[MJACau]

The arrogance of saying it's a 'Bug' in the new AMD CPU's, it could never be their ancient spaghetti code, I remember a veteran synth developer of having major problem with memory corruption with their Synth vsts when used in conjunction with plugins using Pace protection on projects.

[pekbro]

Well, if its only having issues on that particular series of chips and no others, it prob is a problem with the chip, wouldn't be the first time that's ever happened.

But yea that sucks...

[uOpt]

Well, if its only having issues on that particular series of chips and no others, it prob is a problem with the chip, wouldn't be the first time that's ever happened.

But their software is by its very nature doing lots of crazy stuff, usually undocumented. It wouldn't be a surprise either if they are at fault for not following published specs.

[rasmusklump]

Never had any problems with ilok but many problems with amd based pcs in the past.

[Pictus]

The remedy
https://www.reddit.com/r/universalaudio ... t/lkhpjns/

[uOpt]

The remedy
https://www.reddit.com/r/universalaudio ... t/lkhpjns/

The dropbox download that this starts with has been deleted.

[Synthman2000]

I have always favoured Intel CPU's and always will.

Though I am genuinely sorry to hear of this trouble. Horrible situation to be in, stressful.

[Jim Roseberry]

The hot-fix is working for me with 9950x.

I've tested the 9950x under many circumstances... and thus far... the iLok has been the only stumbling block.
I contacted them... and within 24-hours, I was running the hot-fix.
BTW, The Reddit link mentioned the hot-fix not working with SSL plugins. The SSL plugins work fine here.

Thunderbolt-4 is rock-solid.

The 9950x is a great DAW performer.
It offers the performance of a 14900k... at lower TDP.
It's as rock-solid as my 14900k.

Compatibility and optimization are on developers.

[gaf_thit]

I have always favoured Intel CPU's and always will.

Though I am genuinely sorry to hear of this trouble. Horrible situation to be in, stressful.

I was a bit worried with Intel's problems with the 13th and 14th gen, but the fault has been identified, but won't fix degradation that has started though.
https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2024/07 ... pus-crash/

I swing both ways CPU-wise nowadays.

[Gavincoolguy]

The hot-fix is working for me with 9950x.

I've tested the 9950x under many circumstances... and thus far... the iLok has been the only stumbling block.
I contacted them... and within 24-hours, I was running the hot-fix.
BTW, The Reddit link mentioned the hot-fix not working with SSL plugins. The SSL plugins work fine here.

Thunderbolt-4 is rock-solid.

The 9950x is a great DAW performer.
It offers the performance of a 14900k... at lower TDP.
It's as rock-solid as my 14900k.

Compatibility and optimization are on developers.

Thanks for the actionable info the hotfix that was available on Reddit really sucked. I'm emailing them now.

[pekbro]

Well, if its only having issues on that particular series of chips and no others, it prob is a problem with the chip, wouldn't be the first time that's ever happened.

But their software is by its very nature doing lots of crazy stuff, usually undocumented. It wouldn't be a surprise either if they are at fault for not following published specs.

It just seems to me, if that were the case it
would manifest elsewhere, rather than just
one series, the new models even, which implies no problems on earlier generations.
Anyway, thats what the logic implies.

I dont think it speaks poorly of AMD, thats
just how it goes when you have to support
instrucion sets and whatnot that are specified
by other manufacturers. AMD has their own
share of propretary technologies that fit
into the same category as well.

[Gavincoolguy]

They emailed me the same hotfix that was on Reddit but of course the link is dead now. With that hotfix ssl vocal strip didnt work nor neuraldsp but some people also reported that some plugins from vendors worked while other plugins from the same vendor did not work. That's the camp I'm in so the wait continues.

[audiojunkie]

Bummer. It’s never fun to be shot in the foot by copy protection—it hurts the honest more than the pirates.