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Okay, so i just wasted time demoing this. I've never heard an eq sound this bad.
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dionenoid wrote: Thu Nov 16, 2023 8:42 am Okay, so i just wasted time demoing this. I've never heard an eq sound this bad.
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dionenoid wrote: Thu Nov 16, 2023 8:42 am Okay, so i just wasted time demoing this. I've never heard an eq sound this bad.
Scaler EQ sounds exactly like any other minimum phase EQ on the planet If you are doing the same thing with it. Here's a comparison: https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/k5hpdy8n ... r8red&dl=0 (https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/k5hpdy8n70dq5ou9l197k/Phase-Response-Scaler-EQ-v-ProQ3.png?rlkey=q4fdgsyeso907e0lu1nrr8red&dl=0)

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davidec wrote: Thu Nov 16, 2023 6:40 pm
dionenoid wrote: Thu Nov 16, 2023 8:42 am Okay, so i just wasted time demoing this. I've never heard an eq sound this bad.
Scaler EQ sounds exactly like any other minimum phase EQ on the planet If you are doing the same thing with it. Here's a comparison: https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/k5hpdy8n ... r8red&dl=0
sure Davide, but you can prove anything with facts
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4n-UGQcG3Jw

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dionenoid wrote: Thu Nov 16, 2023 8:42 am Okay, so i just wasted time demoing this. I've never heard an eq sound this bad.
Maybe it kills the overtones. The overtones don't always lie on the frequencies of the scale. This will only make the first note of the scale sound good, right? 🤔
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wangeroge wrote: Thu Nov 16, 2023 7:51 pm
dionenoid wrote: Thu Nov 16, 2023 8:42 am Okay, so i just wasted time demoing this. I've never heard an eq sound this bad.
Maybe it kills the overtones. The overtones don't always lie on the frequencies of the scale. This will only make the first note of the scale sound good, right? 🤔
you can have as many notes in the scale as you want, expand that over multiple octaves or just the one octave (ie a single note) and have different scales for each filter band. It is very flexible. Probably the feature Id most like to see added would be solo for multiple bands at once
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neverbefore wrote: Thu Nov 16, 2023 7:58 pm
wangeroge wrote: Thu Nov 16, 2023 7:51 pm
dionenoid wrote: Thu Nov 16, 2023 8:42 am Okay, so i just wasted time demoing this. I've never heard an eq sound this bad.
Maybe it kills the overtones. The overtones don't always lie on the frequencies of the scale. This will only make the first note of the scale sound good, right? 🤔
you can have as many notes in the scale as you want, expand that over multiple octaves or just the one octave (ie a single note) and have different scales for each filter band. It is very flexible
If you use the C major scale and play a C, it will kill the 7th, 11th, 13th and 14th overtone which are not close to the major scale (Bb, F#, G#). It will be even worse for other tones of the scale, right?
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wangeroge wrote: Thu Nov 16, 2023 8:12 pm
neverbefore wrote: Thu Nov 16, 2023 7:58 pm
wangeroge wrote: Thu Nov 16, 2023 7:51 pm
dionenoid wrote: Thu Nov 16, 2023 8:42 am Okay, so i just wasted time demoing this. I've never heard an eq sound this bad.
Maybe it kills the overtones. The overtones don't always lie on the frequencies of the scale. This will only make the first note of the scale sound good, right? 🤔
you can have as many notes in the scale as you want, expand that over multiple octaves or just the one octave (ie a single note) and have different scales for each filter band. It is very flexible
If you use the C major scale and play a C, it will kill the 7th, 11th, 13th and 14th overtone which are not close to the major scale (Bb, F#, G#). It will be even worse for other tones of the scale, right?
not unless you want to - you should try it out, you will quickly find that it is more flexible than that.

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here is a demo of scalerEQ, two instances with asingle soloed band fed a C3 using Pigments 'lounge organ'. I have automated the frequency parameter randomly up and down. The scale for one is d# e for the other f# g# although I changed that while recording and I am still not completely sure how that intereacts with the primary scale setting - not much perhaps but that might be different with more comnplex inputs (tested and it is)


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neverbefore wrote: Thu Nov 16, 2023 7:33 pm
davidec wrote: Thu Nov 16, 2023 6:40 pm
dionenoid wrote: Thu Nov 16, 2023 8:42 am Okay, so i just wasted time demoing this. I've never heard an eq sound this bad.
Scaler EQ sounds exactly like any other minimum phase EQ on the planet If you are doing the same thing with it. Here's a comparison: https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/k5hpdy8n ... r8red&dl=0 (https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/k5hpdy8n70dq5ou9l197k/Phase-Response-Scaler-EQ-v-ProQ3.png?rlkey=q4fdgsyeso907e0lu1nrr8red&dl=0)
sure Davide, but you can prove anything with facts
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4n-UGQcG3Jw
Facts vs Instincts. Ha! I guess they are both as important as each other, thanks for the laugh. PS - I will keep your feature request in mind 👍

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Seem like it would be interesting if using pythagorean tuning.

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neverbefore wrote: Tue Nov 14, 2023 6:32 pm patents only have value if you can enforce them and the most seemingly trivial of designs can be patented eg https://www.theverge.com/2012/11/7/3614 ... ed-corners

but this eq seems to have many many aspects that are new in combination - which is patentable even if the individual components are not particularly novel (and I dont know if a scale based eq is novel or not)
Although brief, this post suggests to me a number of potential misunderstandings regarding patents. For the US patent system:

The potential combination mentioned in the post above must *also* not be obvious "to a person having ordinary skill in the art to which the claimed invention pertains." 35 U.S.C. 103. Variations of the magnitudes of frequency components of filters with multiple peaks are certain to be considered by any audio engineer with ordinary skill in the art, i.e. obvious.

At this time, rendering a verdict about patentability is extremely premature unless one has read the claims and researched prior art. This is unlikely because it appears that the application has yet to be published in Australia or the US.

Abstract ideas are not patentable in the US. Therefore, simply suggesting a combination of this filter and that filter in a new way is not patentable without disclosing each process in a step-by-step fashion. Expanding a bit: So-called "software patents" don't exist at USPTO; they are process patents, a type of utility patent, and usually involve a description of machine operations rather than steps that appear to resemble a mathematical algorithm, the latter being non-patentable. The way in which so-called "software patents" are written makes if difficult for anyone who objects to software patents not to also object to most if not all process patents.

It's nearly always possible to obtain a very narrow, nearly innocuous patent that examiners will no longer object to, so one could predict that a patent of some sort is somewhat likely to eventually be granted for processes in Scaler EQ, but that would not really be saying much at all. The real question is whether or not broad claims will be granted, which IMO would be a grievous error.

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it is very good for sound design with the tuned resonators, you can make instruments from random sounds, you need tal sampler also though :?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nc6sAOCqLjA
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martiu wrote: Sat Dec 09, 2023 3:01 pm it is very good for sound design with the tuned resonators, you can make instruments from random sounds, you need tal sampler also though :?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nc6sAOCqLjA
I think it was not their intention but the best use case for this plugin is indeed to use it as a resonator :hug: . The mixing things with in tune eq frequency is a bad idea :?
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