Uhhh im so stupid. I have only been using one microphone when I record, instead of like 2 or 3 mic's for a fuller stereo image when i record things like vocals or guitars... how stupid of me. What methods do you guys use when doing this?
ashamed of self,
RonC
Why doesn't my music have that -full stereo image- ?
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- KVRist
- 453 posts since 10 Jul, 2003 from Rotterdam
(but, you dont need to work with stereo recordings to make a 'full' stereo mix.)
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- KVRAF
- 6937 posts since 4 Jun, 2004 from Utrecht, Holland
That's not general practice I'm afraid. You might get nasty phase differences when recording with more than one microphone.
With classic-stype recordings you set up mics at a fairly large distance so you capture the acoustics of the room.
With pop-style close miking you only need one mono signal and add reverberations later as effects.
With classic-stype recordings you set up mics at a fairly large distance so you capture the acoustics of the room.
With pop-style close miking you only need one mono signal and add reverberations later as effects.
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- KVRist
- 426 posts since 23 Apr, 2004 from the people's republic of popistan
apart for the overheads on the drums and an occasional room mic for bass or guitaramp all my stuff is recorded mono. no phasing problems then.
My Distortion is Analogue...
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- KVRAF
- 9217 posts since 23 Jul, 2002 from Pequot Lakes, MN
Copy the track to another track.From there,you can either offset one of the tracks in time from the other(don't go overboard-less than 10 ms will do)or detune one of the tracks(once again-a little goes a long ways)or both.Pan the two according to taste.rpc9943 wrote:explain please. I have many tracks I'd like to spread out a bunch of mono recordings
RonC
ew.
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A spectral heretic...
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- KVRAF
- 1789 posts since 17 Mar, 2004 from Bretagne, the west of France
Hm strange
IMHO vocals you would never record with more then one mic, except choir perhaps
Guitars, you can use 2. One at the body and one at the neck to capture fret noice
Piano, yes and no depends what you want
Drums, yes and this can be a complicated setup
But then again, I'm not an expert
Rony
IMHO vocals you would never record with more then one mic, except choir perhaps
Guitars, you can use 2. One at the body and one at the neck to capture fret noice
Piano, yes and no depends what you want
Drums, yes and this can be a complicated setup
But then again, I'm not an expert
Rony
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- Narcissistic Messiah
- 4565 posts since 8 Apr, 2002 from https://soundcloud.com/remcoh
not an expert either
but the way i often do it is, voice - monosignal in the middle all the other instruments some where further to left or right and the only other instrument centred the bassline and bassdrum to form a solid ground for the vox. or sometimes the other way around voice panned to the outerlimit of left and right.
but the way i often do it is, voice - monosignal in the middle all the other instruments some where further to left or right and the only other instrument centred the bassline and bassdrum to form a solid ground for the vox. or sometimes the other way around voice panned to the outerlimit of left and right.
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- KVRAF
- 6740 posts since 25 Mar, 2002 from sheffield, england
depends if you want mono compatibility or not..rpc9943 wrote:but if you hard pan each side, wouldnt it kind of not phase?
RonC
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- KVRAF
- 2083 posts since 8 Apr, 2004
I've recently started to use two mics on acoustic guitars as well.. One on the bridge (SM57) and one on the Fretboard (nt3). Then pan both tracks to different positions. creates a nice stereo image without having to use one of those pseudo stereo things.
As long as your aware of how Phase problems occur you can use two mics okay. I.e. if one mic input has it polarity reversed, or if your stick one mic behind an amp and one in front, Or one above a drum and one below. But it is easier and recommended to use one mic for most instruments. But it really does depend on the instrument and the sound you are trying to get.
Ben
As long as your aware of how Phase problems occur you can use two mics okay. I.e. if one mic input has it polarity reversed, or if your stick one mic behind an amp and one in front, Or one above a drum and one below. But it is easier and recommended to use one mic for most instruments. But it really does depend on the instrument and the sound you are trying to get.
Ben
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- Boss Lovin' DR
- 14312 posts since 15 Mar, 2002 from the grimness of yorkshire
Or record each bit twice (or 4 or six times....ew wrote:Copy the track to another track.From there,you can either offset one of the tracks in time from the other(don't go overboard-less than 10 ms will do)or detune one of the tracks(once again-a little goes a long ways)or both.Pan the two according to taste.rpc9943 wrote:explain please. I have many tracks I'd like to spread out a bunch of mono recordings
RonC
ew.
) and pan em hard left and right, always sounds better in the long run than the delay trick, worth the effort. -
- KVRAF
- 2083 posts since 8 Apr, 2004
I think this is how Wide Boy works. Which is very good and cheap, and definetely worth checking out.ew wrote:Copy the track to another track.From there,you can either offset one of the tracks in time from the other(don't go overboard-less than 10 ms will do)or detune one of the tracks(once again-a little goes a long ways)or both.Pan the two according to taste.rpc9943 wrote:explain please. I have many tracks I'd like to spread out a bunch of mono recordings
RonC
ew.
Ben
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- Narcissistic Messiah
- 4565 posts since 8 Apr, 2002 from https://soundcloud.com/remcoh
phase is often more a problem of the earrpc9943 wrote:but if you hard pan each side, wouldnt it kind of not phase?
RonC
anyway when you dub a vocal (simply by recording another take of the same) you can sometimes give it extra character. (example - cajun moon by jj cale)
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- Narcissistic Messiah
- 4565 posts since 8 Apr, 2002 from https://soundcloud.com/remcoh
which is also a classic example of ubercoolness that only likewise minds can feel (just like 50 ways from paul simon)