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DJErmac wrote: Sat Sep 21, 2024 2:36 pm
MyAudioFactory wrote: Fri Sep 20, 2024 7:05 am MyAudioFactory has just released a new declipper named ProAudioDeclipper, which is said to offer superior performance. A performance comparison with Perfect Declipper can be found on the following website: https://myaudiofactory.com/.
After listening to the demos, this one seems to be the best option availabe.
But indeed the price is steep.
Not that it’s high for what it does, as it seems amazing, but for my needs, no intro offer is a major flaw for me. I’ll wait until black friday. If nothing happens, I’ll wait until christmas. And so on.
Sorry, I don’t have a horrible sounding file every day, only a few I’d like to try to repair. And I’d love to try it on drums to find out what I can get : more punch or not, when the transients are heavily clipped. In a few words it totally looks like a random results tool to me : $99 simply for trying to get something better sometimes is too much. :shrug:
Just to make you realize what your potential customers may be after.
Not to be a party pooper but I have no idea what settings MyAudioFactory used for Thiemo Stereo Tool's de-clipper, but whatever the settings are they are super badly chosen (on purpose?).

Maybe he just stuck to default settings without realizing that they are obviously NOT meant for -12dB clipped material but instead are optimally setup to fix small and short clippings that happen every once in a while.. not full on distorted audio?

However Stereo Tool's de-clipper is more than capable of tackling fully clipped tracks. For instance you need to tweak the "Maximum allowed clipped peaks" slider if you are dealing with extremely clipped material and you can also further tweak the "rubber band" settings that track the waveform if things are constantly clipped.

With the provided -12dB clipped examples I can get cleaner results with Stereo Tool than the de-clipped examples from ProAudioClipper. Then again, I do know what I'm doing and am comfortable using the numerous different controls so perhaps ProAudioClipper is a better "set and forget" tool. That is possible.
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bmanic wrote: Mon Sep 23, 2024 3:52 pm
DJErmac wrote: Sat Sep 21, 2024 2:36 pm
MyAudioFactory wrote: Fri Sep 20, 2024 7:05 am MyAudioFactory has just released a new declipper named ProAudioDeclipper, which is said to offer superior performance. A performance comparison with Perfect Declipper can be found on the following website: https://myaudiofactory.com/.
After listening to the demos, this one seems to be the best option availabe.
But indeed the price is steep.
Not that it’s high for what it does, as it seems amazing, but for my needs, no intro offer is a major flaw for me. I’ll wait until black friday. If nothing happens, I’ll wait until christmas. And so on.
Sorry, I don’t have a horrible sounding file every day, only a few I’d like to try to repair. And I’d love to try it on drums to find out what I can get : more punch or not, when the transients are heavily clipped. In a few words it totally looks like a random results tool to me : $99 simply for trying to get something better sometimes is too much. :shrug:
Just to make you realize what your potential customers may be after.
Not to be a party pooper but I have no idea what settings MyAudioFactory used for Thiemo Stereo Tool's de-clipper, but whatever the settings are they are super badly chosen (on purpose?).

Maybe he just stuck to default settings without realizing that they are obviously NOT meant for -12dB clipped material but instead are optimally setup to fix small and short clippings that happen every once in a while.. not full on distorted audio?

However Stereo Tool's de-clipper is more than capable of tackling fully clipped tracks. For instance you need to tweak the "Maximum allowed clipped peaks" slider if you are dealing with extremely clipped material and you can also further tweak the "rubber band" settings that track the waveform if things are constantly clipped.

With the provided -12dB clipped examples I can get cleaner results with Stereo Tool than the de-clipped examples from ProAudioClipper. Then again, I do know what I'm doing and am comfortable using the numerous different controls so perhaps ProAudioClipper is a better "set and forget" tool. That is possible.
Thank you VERY MUCH for these informations. That’s what forums are made for. :tu:

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Bmanic you are a wealth of knowledge. Is Thimeo the best de-clipper you've found for extreme clipping? I videotaped a live recording as a younger man, where I could have done a LOT better job with levels. Turned out to be my friends' band's last show. I used an ok mic, but doubtful I thought much about polar patterns or stereo image if I didn't even gainstage properly. Had a nice recorder at least. lol. I believe it is mono. Those are secondary problems. After sitting on the shelf for years, in shame, I finally took a closer look at the damage. Izotope RX Spectral Repair surprised me that it could fix anything at all, but it was laborious and I didn't complete the task, and put it back on the shelf. Where it sits today ... always on my mind, as the song goes.

Should I give it a go with Stereo Tool? Was thinking I'd do a little shoot-out of that and ProAudioClipper and see if there's a better way, even though I should just roll up my sleeves and go through with spectral repair, but that is a TASK and not without artifacts.

One thought I have is maybe I run through stem separation first. Pretty much all the clipping is the drums, so perhaps if I separate off the drum stem and just de-clip those, it will simplify the task for the de-clipper, and then I could process the remaining material separately for each of the needs of the instrument (drums, bass, guitar, vocals) ... then I re-assemble the stems and remix? Seems to make sense in concept. It's a shit recording I made, if I say so myself, but not beyond redemption.

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It's quite interesting. To avoid the assumption that we deliberately chose incorrect settings leading to poor results, we will refer to the samples they provided themselves. We believe that the samples they provided should not be the result of incorrect settings.

Here, two samples for comparison are provided.

http://www.perfectdeclipper.com/extreme-declipped.wav
https://myaudiofactory.com/samples/samp ... lipped.wav

ProAudioClipper is designed to minimize the exposure of settings, thereby simplifying the user experience. Whether dealing with slight clipping, severe clipping such as at -20dB, or other imbalanced settings, we have developed an algorithm that automatically detects and adjusts these issues.

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bmanic wrote: Mon Sep 23, 2024 3:52 pm
DJErmac wrote: Sat Sep 21, 2024 2:36 pm
MyAudioFactory wrote: Fri Sep 20, 2024 7:05 am MyAudioFactory has just released a new declipper named ProAudioDeclipper, which is said to offer superior performance. A performance comparison with Perfect Declipper can be found on the following website: https://myaudiofactory.com/.
After listening to the demos, this one seems to be the best option availabe.
But indeed the price is steep.
Not that it’s high for what it does, as it seems amazing, but for my needs, no intro offer is a major flaw for me. I’ll wait until black friday. If nothing happens, I’ll wait until christmas. And so on.
Sorry, I don’t have a horrible sounding file every day, only a few I’d like to try to repair. And I’d love to try it on drums to find out what I can get : more punch or not, when the transients are heavily clipped. In a few words it totally looks like a random results tool to me : $99 simply for trying to get something better sometimes is too much. :shrug:
Just to make you realize what your potential customers may be after.
Not to be a party pooper but I have no idea what settings MyAudioFactory used for Thiemo Stereo Tool's de-clipper, but whatever the settings are they are super badly chosen (on purpose?).

Maybe he just stuck to default settings without realizing that they are obviously NOT meant for -12dB clipped material but instead are optimally setup to fix small and short clippings that happen every once in a while.. not full on distorted audio?

However Stereo Tool's de-clipper is more than capable of tackling fully clipped tracks. For instance you need to tweak the "Maximum allowed clipped peaks" slider if you are dealing with extremely clipped material and you can also further tweak the "rubber band" settings that track the waveform if things are constantly clipped.

With the provided -12dB clipped examples I can get cleaner results with Stereo Tool than the de-clipped examples from ProAudioClipper. Then again, I do know what I'm doing and am comfortable using the numerous different controls so perhaps ProAudioClipper is a better "set and forget" tool. That is possible.
Not for the sake of argument. A good tool is designed to save people's time, allowing them to spend more time on truly valuable pursuits. I don't believe it's the right approach if people need to spend a lot of time learning a tool and experimenting with different settings' combinations to achieve a good result.

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bmanic wrote: Mon Sep 23, 2024 3:52 pm
DJErmac wrote: Sat Sep 21, 2024 2:36 pm
MyAudioFactory wrote: Fri Sep 20, 2024 7:05 am MyAudioFactory has just released a new declipper named ProAudioDeclipper, which is said to offer superior performance. A performance comparison with Perfect Declipper can be found on the following website: https://myaudiofactory.com/.
After listening to the demos, this one seems to be the best option availabe.
But indeed the price is steep.
Not that it’s high for what it does, as it seems amazing, but for my needs, no intro offer is a major flaw for me. I’ll wait until black friday. If nothing happens, I’ll wait until christmas. And so on.
Sorry, I don’t have a horrible sounding file every day, only a few I’d like to try to repair. And I’d love to try it on drums to find out what I can get : more punch or not, when the transients are heavily clipped. In a few words it totally looks like a random results tool to me : $99 simply for trying to get something better sometimes is too much. :shrug:
Just to make you realize what your potential customers may be after.
Not to be a party pooper but I have no idea what settings MyAudioFactory used for Thiemo Stereo Tool's de-clipper, but whatever the settings are they are super badly chosen (on purpose?).

Maybe he just stuck to default settings without realizing that they are obviously NOT meant for -12dB clipped material but instead are optimally setup to fix small and short clippings that happen every once in a while.. not full on distorted audio?

However Stereo Tool's de-clipper is more than capable of tackling fully clipped tracks. For instance you need to tweak the "Maximum allowed clipped peaks" slider if you are dealing with extremely clipped material and you can also further tweak the "rubber band" settings that track the waveform if things are constantly clipped.

With the provided -12dB clipped examples I can get cleaner results with Stereo Tool than the de-clipped examples from ProAudioClipper. Then again, I do know what I'm doing and am comfortable using the numerous different controls so perhaps ProAudioClipper is a better "set and forget" tool. That is possible.
To avoid the assumption that we deliberately chose incorrect settings leading to poor results, we will refer to the samples they provided themselves. We believe that the samples they provided should not be the result of incorrect settings.

Here, two samples for comparison are provided.

http://www.perfectdeclipper.com/extreme-declipped.wav
https://myaudiofactory.com/samples/samp ... lipped.wav

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osiris wrote: Sat Sep 21, 2024 12:40 pm I found out FL Edison has an AI declip function now. I have also used the one in Audacity on a clipped track and it worked quite well.
It is very good.
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