Roland Cloud

[PAK]

Question. If you buy just ZENOLOGY PRO, can you upgrade to the COLLECTION?
does Zenology Pro get on sale?

Nope. You can't You have to decide, at time of purchase, whether to get the base Pro license ($229) or the Collection License ($599). As far as I'm aware Zenology has never been placed on sale. However, individual retailers (such as Sweetwater) do sell it, and they might do their own promotions based on spending etc.

The only bit of "sort of" good news is the base Core subscription gives you almost all of the other Zenology content, should you want that (which includes the SRX content, minus reverb, in the form of the EXZ expansions.)

[Jon at Roland]

Question. If you buy just ZENOLOGY PRO, can you upgrade to the COLLECTION?
does Zenology Pro get on sale?

Hey Caine123, Its always worth reaching out to customer support in these situations. They could be able to help you over there!

[TS-12]

All my favorite VST sounds are in Roland Cloud ( and in hardware Roland gear ) , I'm always thankful that Roland did plug-in versions of their instruments and sounds.
But on the other hand SRX, XV and JV plugins are sometimes a show stopper with their CPU spikes issues and Crashes on Apple Silicon Macs.

[braincandy]

I'm in my first year of it and I'm liking it so far, aside from my wishing RCM would die a quick death. It would be great to see some more classics added such as the JP8080, MKS-80, JX-10, V-Synth, VP-330, JD-990, and Juno-2.

One of my biggest complaints is with the optional sound packs/expansions. Korg did it right by providing all of the extra sounds on cards/expansions with their VSTs instead of forcing you to buy them if you want to own them. All Roland sound cards and expansions should have come standard with the instrument. If Korg can do it, there's no reason Roland can't.

[D-Fusion]

All my favorite VST sounds are in Roland Cloud ( and in hardware Roland gear ) , I'm always thankful that Roland did plug-in versions of their instruments and sounds.
But on the other hand SRX, XV and JV plugins are sometimes a show stopper with their CPU spikes issues and Crashes on Apple Silicon Macs.

I agree.
The SRX, XV and JV are the oldschool type of experience which is why I Jumped over to Zenology Pro instead since it has a Awesome Browser, Low Cpu usage and everything in one place when you add the Zen expansions to it.

I don't get why they sell the JV-1080 and the XV5080 since they are basicly the same plugin with a different Skin.

[Examigan]

All my favorite VST sounds are in Roland Cloud ( and in hardware Roland gear ) , I'm always thankful that Roland did plug-in versions of their instruments and sounds.
But on the other hand SRX, XV and JV plugins are sometimes a show stopper with their CPU spikes issues and Crashes on Apple Silicon Macs.

I don't get why they sell the JV-1080 and the XV5080 since they are basicly the same plugin with a different Skin.

Maybe as a cheaper option to Zenology’s higher price? You can get the XV5080 for $99 with Play4Life, but Zenology doesn’t qualify for that discounted pricing.

[D-Fusion]

All my favorite VST sounds are in Roland Cloud ( and in hardware Roland gear ) , I'm always thankful that Roland did plug-in versions of their instruments and sounds.
But on the other hand SRX, XV and JV plugins are sometimes a show stopper with their CPU spikes issues and Crashes on Apple Silicon Macs.

I don't get why they sell the JV-1080 and the XV5080 since they are basicly the same plugin with a different Skin.

Maybe as a cheaper option to Zenology’s higher price? You can get the XV5080 for $99 with Play4Life, but Zenology doesn’t qualify for that discounted pricing.

True but if you use up your P4L Keys for the JV 1080 and the XV 5080 plugin you have used up 2 keys for the same plugin with a different skin which is my point in that example.

I do get why they don't want to add Zenology Pro into the P4L Package since it is a better Option Compared to the Separated SRX, JV, XV Module offerings and it costs more.

What would be Clever for them to do would be to add the Various Zenology Expansions into the P4L options where you could choose 2 of their low priced Zen SRX versions for 1 P4L key and the Synth Models as separate P4L Offerings like they are doing with the Legendary and Aira Products.

That would boost the sale of Zenology Pro

They should also add their effects into the P4L offerings too.

And as a Reminder that I won't shut up about until it is done is "Remove the 30 day Limit for the Lifetime keys"

[Examigan]

All my favorite VST sounds are in Roland Cloud ( and in hardware Roland gear ) , I'm always thankful that Roland did plug-in versions of their instruments and sounds.
But on the other hand SRX, XV and JV plugins are sometimes a show stopper with their CPU spikes issues and Crashes on Apple Silicon Macs.

I don't get why they sell the JV-1080 and the XV5080 since they are basicly the same plugin with a different Skin.

Maybe as a cheaper option to Zenology’s higher price? You can get the XV5080 for $99 with Play4Life, but Zenology doesn’t qualify for that discounted pricing.

True but if you use up your P4L Keys for the JV 1080 and the XV 5080 plugin you have used up 2 keys for the same plugin with a different skin which is my point in that example.

Oh I see what you mean now and yes I agree.
I only bought the XV-5080 and D-50.

[TS-12]

All my favorite VST sounds are in Roland Cloud ( and in hardware Roland gear ) , I'm always thankful that Roland did plug-in versions of their instruments and sounds.
But on the other hand SRX, XV and JV plugins are sometimes a show stopper with their CPU spikes issues and Crashes on Apple Silicon Macs.

I don't get why they sell the JV-1080 and the XV5080 since they are basicly the same plugin with a different Skin.

Maybe as a cheaper option to Zenology’s higher price? You can get the XV5080 for $99 with Play4Life, but Zenology doesn’t qualify for that discounted pricing.

I got both Zenology, XV-5080 and D-50. But to my ears, the same patches in zenology don't sound as good as in XV or D-50.

And yes it not cool how roland split XV and JV, Juno-60 and 106, into separate products, while each Korg's plug-in instrument comes with all the expansions.

Korg would have released XV-5080 with all the SRX and SRJV expansions

[IvyBirds]

Maybe as a cheaper option to Zenology’s higher price? You can get the XV5080 for $99 with Play4Life, but Zenology doesn’t qualify for that discounted pricing.

True but if you use up your P4L Keys for the JV 1080 and the XV 5080 plugin you have used up 2 keys for the same plugin with a different skin which is my point in that example.

Beyond that why are the SRX expansions separate instruments and not rolled into the XV5080? When I had my XV5080 I had it maxed out with both SRX cards and SR-JV80 cards it was awesome to be able to mix and match samples from four different cards into a single patch

If Roland were a decent company they would put all of the original SR-JV80 cards the samples and the presets into the JV-1080 plugin.

Then put all of the SRX cards samples and presets into the XV5080 plugin

That would give a much better emulation of using the actual hardware fully expanded. There are some real gems from the SR-JV80, patches that Eric Persing made that are just being ignored that would sell, especially the original Vintage Synth card

It would be dead simple to do as well. If you have the BIN files (easily found online) from the original cards all you have to do is change a line or two of code and they work. It would literally take a college intern working for free a few hours to make that a reality.

It's the lowest of low hanging fruit. I can't fathom why they don't do it except they probably think it would hurt Zenology sales, and of course they can pretend there are a out a dozen more instruments in the Cloud collection because each SRX card is a separate instrument

From a sound design aspect it would open up so much

They could also easily make a "New Instrument" by releasing the original Vintage Synth Card as a separate instrument. That card had a bank of presets for the JV line, and an additional bank for the JD990. They already have everything in place to make everything from both into a separate instrument if they wanted, again low hanging fruit

[Trancer]

Hello,

Passionate about Roland sounds, I would like to, but I am very hesitant when seeing this thread to take an ultimate subscription.

The problem of DRM, file overload, etc ... really makes me question the relevance of taking the subscription.

I plan to use Galaxias mainly, since now in vst 3.

I plan to open several instances in Live 12.

Is it possible to open several instances of Galaxias?

Is the CPU overload reasonable?

Is Galaxias stable, no bugs?

The problem if well understood is linked to the use of Zenology / Pro, would I have the same problem with the use of Galaxias?

Thank you in advance for your answers and opinions.

[ChamomileShark]

Hello,

Passionate about Roland sounds, I would like to, but I am very hesitant when seeing this thread to take an ultimate subscription.

The problem of DRM, file overload, etc ... really makes me question the relevance of taking the subscription.

I plan to use Galaxias mainly, since now in vst 3.

I plan to open several instances in Live 12.

Is it possible to open several instances of Galaxias?

Is the CPU overload reasonable?

Is Galaxias stable, no bugs?

The problem if well understood is linked to the use of Zenology / Pro, would I have the same problem with the use of Galaxias?

Thank you in advance for your answers and opinions.

I think you can get a limited demo sub for Ultimate. Then try out what you are asking. What might work for some people might not work on your machine and vice versa.

[Jon at Roland]

Hello,

Passionate about Roland sounds, I would like to, but I am very hesitant when seeing this thread to take an ultimate subscription.

The problem of DRM, file overload, etc ... really makes me question the relevance of taking the subscription.

I plan to use Galaxias mainly, since now in vst 3.

I plan to open several instances in Live 12.

Is it possible to open several instances of Galaxias?

Is the CPU overload reasonable?

Is Galaxias stable, no bugs?

The problem if well understood is linked to the use of Zenology / Pro, would I have the same problem with the use of Galaxias?

Thank you in advance for your answers and opinions.

Hey Trancer, I think the best thing to do is just try Roland Cloud for yourself. By signing up for any of our memberships you'll get 30 days free of our Ultimate membership. So you are able to try everything in our library. GALAXIAS seems to not have many issues, CPU overload is possible when you have a lots of tracks of GALAXIAS all using 4 instruments each. We are always available to help you troubleshoot these issues as well, or find a solution for you if you feel you are unable to use Roland Cloud to its fullest because of some larger issue. Let me know if you have any questions.

[AutoMotto]

Beyond that why are the SRX expansions separate instruments and not rolled into the XV5080? When I had my XV5080 I had it maxed out with both SRX cards and SR-JV80 cards it was awesome to be able to mix and match samples from four different cards into a single patch

If Roland were a decent company they would put all of the original SR-JV80 cards the samples and the presets into the JV-1080 plugin.

Roland only want your cash. And as long as you are willing to shell out your hard earned money, they will rip you off!! simple as that sir.

[IvyBirds]

Beyond that why are the SRX expansions separate instruments and not rolled into the XV5080? When I had my XV5080 I had it maxed out with both SRX cards and SR-JV80 cards it was awesome to be able to mix and match samples from four different cards into a single patch

If Roland were a decent company they would put all of the original SR-JV80 cards the samples and the presets into the JV-1080 plugin.

Roland only want your cash. And as long as you are willing to shell out your hard earned money, they will rip you off!! simple as that sir.

Sure and that's why it's so baffling, they would get more cash if they put in such minimal effort

Thinking about it further, I guess in a way you if you have an Ultimate Sub you could use Galaxias and layer four instances of the SRX instruments to kind of emulate making a patch in an XV5080 using 4 SRX cards. It's not really the same and probably ends up sounding like Zenology

However you could have a patch with up to 16 partials that way from four different SRX cards and the XV5080 factory Ron

If they would fix RCM or eliminate it for something else I might even get an ultimate sub to play around with that