Right?!!! The TEO-5 is everything I anticipated/hoped it would be. It's an instant gratification beast and I already feel like it's going to be one of my most used synths.elxsound wrote: Tue Sep 24, 2024 5:40 pmThis is such an amazing time for synthscryophonik wrote: Tue Sep 24, 2024 5:26 pm The UDO Super 6 didn’t really do it for me, so I replaced it with a TEO-5:
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2024: A Year in Gear (What You've Bought or Want to Buy in 2024)
- KVRAF
- 12234 posts since 7 Sep, 2006 from Roseville, CA
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- addled muppet weed
- 111315 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass
my qmmg arrives tomorrow :woohoo!!:
- KVRAF
- 11338 posts since 18 Aug, 2007 from NYC
Are you using any of these mixers for panning? I keep landing back at x-pan if I don’t use CVilization.justin3am wrote: Tue Sep 24, 2024 6:05 pmMixers are very important in my racks but I don't have a big full featured mixer like the Cosmix or the WMD Performance Mixer. With 3 or 4 simple 4-channel mixers, I can use one for layering oscillators, another for mixing CVs and a pair for sends/returns. Since I frequently use arbitrary feedback in patches, it can be useful to mix signal at several different points in a patch.Constructed Identity wrote: Tue Sep 24, 2024 4:29 pm The mixer above is only available in white at P.C.
But thinking more on my goals and the restrictions of a euro rack case, I wonder if a mixer is really the best solution. I could just get Expert Sleepers' ES-9 and mix in my DAW. I want to be able to pan (noise) hats and other percussion like I do now and adding panning CV and the associated wires and function generators would be extremely complex. Also, doing the whole aux effect send thing with Mnimeophon adds more complexity...
I have been watching the Make Noise YouTube videos recently and he's got quite a complex noodle soup going on...for simple ideas really.
What do the experts on here think?
So I'm definitely in favor of having mixers in my rack but like elxsound, I tend to feed my voice outputs into an outboard mixer or an audio interface.
Today I added Mixwitch back in to assist with mixing when needed.
This is where I’m at now, and with space reserved for Bruxa (MmMidi/Data Bender) I don’t have much space to give up.
Ch.Svr (6hp) is one of the last flexible pieces.
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- KVRAF
- 11338 posts since 18 Aug, 2007 from NYC
I’ll need to check some videos out, but looks like it’s in stock direct, not from scalpers.pekbro wrote: Tue Sep 24, 2024 8:28 pm cold mac makes a good mixer/utility imo.
it doesnt come in black tho.
Black Face Plate too.
https://morkmodules.com/en-us/products/ ... lack-panel
EDIT: Sounds great, but I think I’d want something simpler, just focused on mixing/panning. Definitely an interesting module.
- KVRAF
- 11338 posts since 18 Aug, 2007 from NYC
And no pressure, but I’m hoping you add a Toneverkcryophonik wrote: Tue Sep 24, 2024 6:14 pmRight?!!! The TEO-5 is everything I anticipated/hoped it would be. It's an instant gratification beast and I already feel like it's going to be one of my most used synths.elxsound wrote: Tue Sep 24, 2024 5:40 pmThis is such an amazing time for synthscryophonik wrote: Tue Sep 24, 2024 5:26 pm The UDO Super 6 didn’t really do it for me, so I replaced it with a TEO-5:
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I should be done with purchases for the year (not including my preorder for Bruxa).
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- KVRian
- 1343 posts since 29 Sep, 2012 from Minnesota
Great, now could you test it for the petal input issue I had. I might have gotten one that was messed up at the store -the protective film over the screen was missing and the box wasn't sealed.cryophonik wrote: Tue Sep 24, 2024 5:26 pm The UDO Super 6 didn’t really do it for me, so I replaced it with a TEO-5:
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To check switch petal in settings between 'LP full' and 'CC11', I think it ships with it controlling the filter. If you notice a difference in the behavior of things assigned to the petal (expression) either way let me know. You can assign CC11 to VCO1 pitch to be obvious.
Thanks for the help
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- KVRian
- 1343 posts since 29 Sep, 2012 from Minnesota
Well, I think I just changed my mind before spending moneyelxsound wrote: Tue Sep 24, 2024 4:46 pmNot an expert, but my own take on this is that if my rack is next to my computer, I’d forego that mixer and choose something like OptX or ES-9.Constructed Identity wrote: Tue Sep 24, 2024 4:29 pm The mixer above is only available in white at P.C.
But thinking more on my goals and the restrictions of a euro rack case, I wonder if a mixer is really the best solution. I could just get Expert Sleepers' ES-9 and mix in my DAW. I want to be able to pan (noise) hats and other percussion like I do now and adding panning CV and the associated wires and function generators would be extremely complex. Also, doing the whole aux effect send thing with Mnimeophon adds more complexity...
I have been watching the Make Noise YouTube videos recently and he's got quite a complex noodle soup going on...for simple ideas really.
What do the experts on here think?
If I were performing I’d want a mixer. Or if you’re dead set on a Dawless setup, like my current semi-modular setup a mixer is helpful. I have 1010music eurorack BlueBox for mixing and recording because I want to turn it on and just make noise.
For the dual Brute Rack that I put away after each use, I prefer to keep the mixer out of it but still use CVilization for panning if I’m recording to a 1/2 input or I’ll use the desktop BlueBox and just record there, then mangle in the box later.
I still might swap CVilization for an OptX later to record directly to the computer, or to Push 3.
You're right, no reason to have a big mixer here. I could still get a summing mixer or X-Pan for performance and keep it to 10 hp.
- KVRAF
- 12234 posts since 7 Sep, 2006 from Roseville, CA
I may also be done for the year. I’ve sold off a bunch of items and added a few new ones (OB-X8, e7, and TEO-5). During my downsizing, I got rid of all of my Elektron boxes except the two that I use consistently - the RYTM mk2 and Digitakt II. I’ll have to wait and see what the Tonverk is, but I currently don’t see myself needing any more grooveboxes or drum machines.elxsound wrote: Tue Sep 24, 2024 10:01 pmAnd no pressure, but I’m hoping you add a Toneverkcryophonik wrote: Tue Sep 24, 2024 6:14 pmRight?!!! The TEO-5 is everything I anticipated/hoped it would be. It's an instant gratification beast and I already feel like it's going to be one of my most used synths.elxsound wrote: Tue Sep 24, 2024 5:40 pmThis is such an amazing time for synthscryophonik wrote: Tue Sep 24, 2024 5:26 pm The UDO Super 6 didn’t really do it for me, so I replaced it with a TEO-5:
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I should be done with purchases for the year (not including my preorder for Bruxa).
Logic Pro | LUNA Pro | OB-X8 | Prophet 6 | OB-6 | Rev2 | TEO-5 | Pro 3 | SE-1X | Minitaur | Deepmind 12D | Slim Phatty | TR-1000 | Analog RYTM mk2 | Digitakt 2 | TD-3 MO | TD-3 | Maschine+
- KVRAF
- 12234 posts since 7 Sep, 2006 from Roseville, CA
I’ll have to see if I can find my old expression pedal. I have a ton of sustain pedals and switches, but I only have one expression pedal and haven’t seen it in a while.Constructed Identity wrote: Wed Sep 25, 2024 12:32 amGreat, now could you test it for the petal input issue I had. I might have gotten one that was messed up at the store -the protective film over the screen was missing and the box wasn't sealed.cryophonik wrote: Tue Sep 24, 2024 5:26 pm The UDO Super 6 didn’t really do it for me, so I replaced it with a TEO-5:
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To check switch petal in settings between 'LP full' and 'CC11', I think it ships with it controlling the filter. If you notice a difference in the behavior of things assigned to the petal (expression) either way let me know. You can assign CC11 to VCO1 pitch to be obvious.
Thanks for the help
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- KVRAF
- 12234 posts since 7 Sep, 2006 from Roseville, CA
Found my old Roland EV-5. Polarity set to normal and it works perfectly as set to default (LPF Full) and controls the full range of the filter. When I set it to CC11 and I assign it to another parameter (I used Osc1Freq and a few other parameters), it also worked perfectly. OS1.0.0.
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- KVRAF
- 8082 posts since 9 Jan, 2003 from Saint Louis MO
I definitely agree on the whole utility mixer in the rack, main mixing in the DAW thing.
I don't tend to do much panning in the rack though.
I don't tend to do much panning in the rack though.
- KVRAF
- 13139 posts since 7 May, 2006 from Southern California
I don't do much panning in the synth. It tends to limit my options in terms of panning when I'm mixing a track. I do have an X-Pan but I use it more for the crossfaders than for the panning.elxsound wrote: Tue Sep 24, 2024 8:22 pm
Are you using any of these mixers for panning? I keep landing back at x-pan if I don’t use CVilization.
When I do panning inside the synth, it's more to split a signal between two parallel signal paths, and for that, I usually use something like the Happy Nerding Dual Xfade. With it's normalled connections, it can act as a single panner, same is true of Doepfer A134-2. This way I don't use up a mixer just for sending/modulating a signal to two different channels.
- KVRAF
- 11338 posts since 18 Aug, 2007 from NYC
Interesting… I might look into getting ones of those and then keep the 4x Stereo Mix in the rack. CVilization covers lots of Mixwitch plus more so it’s not a keeper. Dual Xfade would add more features I don’t have, plus add more places to plug things in (with 4x Stereo Mix).justin3am wrote: Wed Sep 25, 2024 3:41 pmI don't do much panning in the synth. It tends to limit my options in terms of panning when I'm mixing a track. I do have an X-Pan but I use it more for the crossfaders than for the panning.elxsound wrote: Tue Sep 24, 2024 8:22 pm
Are you using any of these mixers for panning? I keep landing back at x-pan if I don’t use CVilization.
When I do panning inside the synth, it's more to split a signal between two parallel signal paths, and for that, I usually use something like the Happy Nerding Dual Xfade. With it's normalled connections, it can act as a single panner, same is true of Doepfer A134-2. This way I don't use up a mixer just for sending/modulating a signal to two different channels.