Tokyo Dawn Labs

rakotoaf · Post by **rakotoaf** » Thu Sep 26, 2024 8:22 am

Right now, I'm discovering the power of free and open source plugins with Bitwig and reaper as Daw. And to be honest, no more need for paid plugins bombarded with marketing and false promises. That said, TDR remains the brand that deserves to be supported for me. I love TDR. So, if you have some time, consider the linux version and clap. Thanks in advance.

audiojunkie · Post by **audiojunkie** » Thu Sep 26, 2024 3:55 pm

Ooh! I would LOVE TDL plugins in native Linux format!!!!! Please!!!

swindus · Post by **swindus** » Tue Oct 01, 2024 1:38 pm

A native Linux version of TDR plugins would be great. But they also work with yabridge very stable and without problems.

Another thing for an update is a greater scaling size. Now the max scaling is 150% and on a 4k screen 175% or even 200% scaling would be a nice option.

FabienTDR · Post by **FabienTDR** » Wed Oct 02, 2024 10:20 am

As much as we'd like to support more platforms, doing so would significantly increase the cost/effort related to maintenance and support. We already spend most of our days with maintenance, handling the latest "bugs" introduced by ongoing technological development (the fragmented OS UI scaling/retina/sub-pixel madness is such an example).

Bear in mind our freeware offers are the primary advertisement and customer acquisition vehicle for us. Thanks to this trick, we don't have to spend any money on "pro" manipulative advertising, be it google ads, banners, affiliate games or artist endorsements. This in turn allows us to undercut most of the competition without cutting into our own legs.
Our freeware is not a hippie thing, but part of this larger cycle.

If we see an easy way to support the platform and cover this full cycle, we'll do. But right now the technical effort vs possible biz reward still looks a bit sad to me - not yet justifying an increase in our workforce.

LaserLobes · Post by **LaserLobes** » Wed Oct 02, 2024 1:59 pm

I don’t have actual data, but I can’t see the market for audio production on Linux to be that significant at the moment in terms of percentage of people using it. I’d be interested if anyone has info on that because idk. That said, I think it’s important to develop it in a general sense. If yabridge is working well, it might be better to lean on that for a bit considering your business structure. You could just keep an eye on yabridge functionality and make sure that doesn’t get broken somehow.

Personally, I like the idea of being able to move everything over to linux, but I’m not ready for that migration yet. I kinda hate apple but it hasn’t turned toxic enough for me to jump ship. Microsoft is dead to me though (something tells me that MS will be just fine without me lol). All those windows machines are now running linux. It’s probably only a matter of time for me to start wandering over to Linux audio production, but whether enough people make the move to linux is a complete unknown to me. It seems difficult to imagine pro’s and studios moving. Same for most prosumers. Until something radically changes …

Anyway, just thinking out loud.

FabienTDR · Post by **FabienTDR** » Thu Oct 03, 2024 6:45 pm

I don't have much data on this either, aside that the "evil" OS's definitely have substantial, stable and financially potent audiences.

The idea to support popular bridging tech sounds like a wise solution on the short term. Long term, I somewhat doubt linux to ever compete on the UI or usability side. After all, this approach is what made and makes linux so dominant in non UI sectors in the first place.

audiojunkie · Post by **audiojunkie** » Thu Oct 03, 2024 9:13 pm

FabienTDR wrote: Thu Oct 03, 2024 6:45 pm I don't have much data on this either, aside that the "evil" OS's definitely have substantial, stable and financially potent audiences.

The idea to support popular bridging tech sounds like a wise solution on the short term. Long term, I somewhat doubt linux to ever compete on the UI or usability side. After all, this approach is what made and makes linux so dominant in non UI sectors in the first place.

First of all, those of us who use Linux are a financially potent audience as well, if the product is something we want/need.

Secondly, I agree that it is a great idea for company's Windows products to be Linux WINE friendly. We don't have a problem with using the WINE compatibility layer in our systems. You could do some testing and decide what is needed to use your plugins through WINE (or provide a link to a volunteer-posted page, and post it on your site. It doesn't even have to be "officially" supported. What we need most, are "WINE friendly developers"--then there is no loss from supporting a Linux Natively compiled plugin--just be "Linux Friendly" without providing official support.

mabian · Post by **mabian** » Fri Oct 04, 2024 12:54 pm

I think that the current freebies are pretty much Wine friendly, no?

Trying Linux lately and TDR plugins seem among those that are better handled by wine and yabridge...

- Mario

audiojunkie · Post by **audiojunkie** » Fri Oct 04, 2024 9:20 pm

That’s great to know!!

limitlesssss · Post by **limitlesssss** » Tue Oct 28, 2025 1:41 pm

Still no GNU/Linux and CLAP support? One would think TDR would be one of the first developers to support both.

martinjuenke · Post by **martinjuenke** » Tue Oct 28, 2025 3:22 pm

You do not like to read it:
Linux and Clap is just niche and not really worth the developer time.
But face the reality.

mabian · Post by **mabian** » Tue Oct 28, 2025 3:24 pm

martinjuenke wrote: Tue Oct 28, 2025 3:22 pm You do not like to read it:
Linux and Clap is just niche and not really worth the developer time.
But face the reality.

I do not like to read it...

Next JUCE is going to support CLAP natively. I see for sure an extra effort, but not that much - for who uses JUCE at least.

- Mario

Tokyo Dawn Labs

KVR Audio

Maybe...it's time for linux and clap support, no ?