Anything and everything about MIDI - arp, mapper, mangler, generator, chorder, controller, utility, fx etc.

[billinder33]

I bought the ORB Producer Suite....but im NOT really getting along with it.

....any one else using this , successfully !?

https://www.orbplugins.com/orb-producer-suite/

I messed with it a bit, but haven't touched it in years though. It strikes me as a horse for a specific course. Created a couple of really interesting things with it, including large chunks of these two ditties:

https://soundcloud.com/user-408796112/majestic

https://soundcloud.com/user-408796112/kontrakt

It seems to be at its best when you build your entire song structure around it, which is not typically how I work. Also the fact that you have to switch between 4 different plugins instead of having every MIDI part in one plugin and routing those part to separate DAW track, makes it a little cumbersome to use. Great idea, wish the implementation was a little better. Honestly haven't really found anything in this category of plugins that has resonated with me over the long term.

[joris.roling]

For those who are into generating MIDI, and perform a sequence in all aspects, check out Bacara by Bonboa.
It commes in CLAP, VST3 & AU formats, and is awesome!

[twoodts]

For those who are into generating MIDI, and perform a sequence in all aspects, check out Bacara by Bonboa.
It commes in CLAP, VST3 & AU formats, and is awesome!

Do they have a mailing list? I couldn't find one. (In case they branch out to windows land)

[Kalamata Kid]

I would be happy for a iOS Bacara.
I would prefer the Bacarato be multi-touch capable in the Windows domain
but
Will settle with the Bacara inside the multi-touch iPad.

[Kalamata Kid]

Plugin Modular Environments:
These plugins can host plugins.

Bidule, rock solid. Keep it simple or get real midi-creative. https://web.archive.org/web/20170926075 ... ts/bidule/

Freestyle https://www.newsonicarts.com/html/freestyle.php

Metaplugin - built in 32-64 bit bridge
https://ddmf.eu/metaplugin-chainer-vst- ... x-wrapper/

Element - https://kushview.net/

Loomer Architect when version 1 is released it will be the most and best midi fx plugin if not so already. https://loomer.co.uk/architect.html

Unify has a modular environment called ComboBox which allows one to route audio and midi as desired. https://www.pluginguru.com/products/unify-standard/

Mulab Plugin has Mux https://www.mutools.com/index.html

FL Studio has Patcher! And if FLS gets the promised ARA integration it will be the only plugin with ARA capability. https://www.image-line.com/fl-studio-le ... atcher.htm

Misc:
List of chainers: https://www.kvraudio.com/plugins/plug-in-chainer-rack
Plugin Buddy - Free https://www.modalics.com/products/plugin-buddy-free
Nora, will host VSTi and VST fx. But will it host VSTi midi fx? viewtopic.php?t=425600
BespokeSynth – Is a stand-alone app but wish it was a plugin. Will it host VSTi midi fx? It is free. https://www.bespokesynth.com/

[dopet]

I bought the ORB Producer Suite....but im NOT really getting along with it.

....any one else using this , successfully !?

https://www.orbplugins.com/orb-producer-suite/

Hi! I have both the producer suite and their Orb Composer stand alone software. I make use of these tools often and quite like them for what they are. Are they perfect, no, but interesting idea generators at times.

Orb Chords is a pretty good chord progression generator. They have a setting where you can split the chords up to be less than just 1 bar long. So basically you can have faster chord changes as well as the options for the chord rhythms. When randomizing all the above, you can get some neat things going. I like this better than Captain Chords in general... though though the rhythm patterns in Captain Chords are pretty useful right off the bat...

The Orb Melody module is OK. Again, lots of possibilities with the randomizers. Most of the well-known 'melody generators' are really more like 'top-line' generators and its not always easy getting something lyrical out of them. A lot of the 'melodies' from here tend to be based on chord tones and are almost similar to what you would get from the arpeggiator module. There isn't always much 'scale(step)-wise' movement. They do have the 'Lyrical Melody' setting, which can be useful, but boy... the ideas can be really bland in general. The Captain Melody one is a bit of a pain to use for me, but seems good at coming up with short, catchy little phrases.

Orb Bass is not my favorite... way too random to get good grooves. This one takes time to get something interesting.

Orb Arp does what is says and does it pretty ok I think.

The Producer Suite is supposed to be a 'catch all' suite of tools and therefore can give a lot undesired results. The stand alone Orb Composer software has 'preset algorithms' (i'm guessing it is something like that) for each instrument type, so a lyrical result for the violins will be different than the lyrical results for the pianos... if that makes sense.... again, not perfect, but more useful perhaps? The Composer software is stand alone and doesn't import midi chord data... so you will need to layout the chords manually if bringing that into the project later. Plus, you need to use virtual midi cables if you want to pipe the midi real time back into your project. You can export the midi out of it by drag and drop though.

One of the biggest things I like about the Orb Products (and one the company stopped mentioning awhile back) is that if you have multiple melody generators in use .... they all work off of and with each other. There were some advanced settings in their earlier versions of Orb Composer where you could have the new melody lines mimic the 'main line' or work around it (like countermelody style) and a few other options. I think this is all baked in now. So, while you may have to spend some time getting things how you want in the melody generator... once you have the 'main line' any subsequent melody generators will work with that one. So you can quickly get Violin, Viola and cellos playing lines that work together. Things like Melody Sauce, Captain Melody, Rapid Composer, etc don't do that at all, so you are really trying to piece together multiple random bits and re-tooling them to fit together.

This may all sound a bit luke-warm (and maybe it is) but out of most of the tools like this I own, I tend to go for this one first. I have sometimes been pleasantly surprised at what it can come up with.... sometimes if i need to 'background' melodic parts quickly... it works there as well.

As an aside.... one chord generator that I really love is Audiomodern's Chord Jam. Very flexible with chords, voicings, timing of chord changes.... I don't know if it handles chord 'rhythm' well or if at all, but very unique ideas can be had!

I can go into more detail on these things.... just ask!

[dopet]

Plugin Modular Environments:
These plugins can host plugins.

Don't forget Plugin Buddy https://www.modalics.com/products/plugin-buddy-free by Modalics (maker of Beat Scholar and Eon Arp). Relative new one.... You can add 4 midi 'fx' (like Orb Producer Suite!) before your instrument of choice then add FX after. I think there is a patch randomizer as well. Maybe not as completely modular as some of the ones listed here, but I have found it fast and useful to use. It's becoming my 1st stop if I need something like this.

[Kalamata Kid]

Had seen Plugin Buddy earlier but passed as I prefer the Bidule type of Plugins.
Thanks for the reminder.
I added it to the list.

[Raddler1]

For those who are into generating MIDI, and perform a sequence in all aspects, check out Bacara by Bonboa.
It commes in CLAP, VST3 & AU formats, and is awesome!

Logic not recognizing it as MIDI FX. Not even seeing it in plugin manager.

[martinjuenke]

For those who are into generating MIDI, and perform a sequence in all aspects, check out Bacara by Bonboa.
It commes in CLAP, VST3 & AU formats, and is awesome!

Logic not recognizing it as MIDI FX. Not even seeing it in plugin manager.

A glitch in the matrix?

[joris.roling]

For those who are into generating MIDI, and perform a sequence in all aspects, check out Bacara by Bonboa.
It commes in CLAP, VST3 & AU formats, and is awesome!

Logic not recognizing it as MIDI FX. Not even seeing it in plugin manager.

I don't know your setup, but here in Logic Pro I can see Bacara as MIDI FX -> Audio Units -> Bonboa -> Bacara, and it seems to works fine.

[Raddler1]

For those who are into generating MIDI, and perform a sequence in all aspects, check out Bacara by Bonboa.
It commes in CLAP, VST3 & AU formats, and is awesome!

Logic not recognizing it as MIDI FX. Not even seeing it in plugin manager.

I don't know your setup, but here in Logic Pro I can see Bacara as MIDI FX -> Audio Units -> Bonboa -> Bacara, and it seems to works fine.

I'm Intel ventura. Logic 10.8 . You?

[joris.roling]

I'm Intel ventura. Logic 10.8 . You?

I'm on Apple Silicon, Logic Pro v10.8.1

[nordickvr]

I'm Intel ventura. Logic 10.8 . You?

I'm on Apple Silicon, Logic Pro v10.8.1

Does it need a permanent connection to the net/sometimes “phoning home” while using it?

[joris.roling]

Does it need a permanent connection to the net/sometimes “phoning home” while using it?

It needs internet access when registering and when generating new patterns. But not permanent.