KORG Collection 5 with ARP 2600 Emulation coming Summer 2024

[IvyBirds]

Yes, it had a profound impact 36 years ago, when it was released. So did the first Mac in 1984 but absolutely nobody would want to use one of those in 2024, would they?

Why are you being so defensive? All I am doing is sharing my opinion on a musical instrument. As for people getting rid of M1 Synths back in the day, I remember vividly people giving away all kinds of analog Synths to buy M1's you know the exact ones you find so valuable now.

As for old Macs they are not instruments and not really relevant to the discussion, but many people collect old computers and even use them in music production.

Thanks again for sharing your opinion, not sure why you always must be so defensive when other people share theirs

[BBFG#]

@BBFG# - I don't get defensive, I just try to explain myself better if people seem not to understand on the first pass.

You get defensive all the time. You just fall under the belief that the best defense is an aggressive offense.
And it seems everyone knows that except you.
I am interested to know what the only chart you're interested in is though.

[Dirtgrain]

Bones has been told over and over that he has blinders on, projecting his preference of music and instrumentation as if it must apply all other musicians and all other genres. He never f**king learns.

[Teksonik]

Yes, it had a profound impact 36 years ago, when it was released.

Such as.....

I use ARP Odyssey and ARP 2600 all the time

Released 52 and 53 years ago respectively.

So you like old synths, other people like different old synths. Get over it.

The bottom line is, no....one...cares....what you like or don't like. Let people like what they want without being constantly challenged for their preferences. You simply never will grasp that concept and quite frankly after nearly 25 years it has gotten old....really, really, old.

At any rate I won't engage with you any further on the subject. I don't want to keep feeding your pathological need for confrontation which will only lead to you getting suspended again....for the two dozenth or so time.

[BONES]

Seems like you are the one being defensive. All I did was share my opinion about crappy wannabe Nine Inch Nail ripoffs.

See, right there. Why slag off something totally irrelevant to the discussion? It makes no sense.

I mean since you value the opinions of others and all?

I don't value the opinions of anyone. Opinions are like arseholes - everyone has one but some stink worse than others. I value facts.

They were sharing their opinion were they not?

Without any explanation, which made it hard to know just how badly it stunk. Further questioning was required. 4 year-old children tell you "what", adults can tell you "why" as well, which allows you to assess the validity of what they have to say. It's how a grown-up discussion is supposed to work. The "what" isn't really important, and is utterly useless without the "why".

So you didn't share an opinion you asked a question and I answered it.

I asked a question in the first sentence but that was three words in a post of 78 words. And, BTW, you didn't answer it at all, you went off on some absurd tangent that kind of reinforced my viewpoint, whilst simultaneously making you look a bit clueless. I mean Charlie Clouser used it when it was cutting-edge technology and that's what you should be taking from the photo you supplied - Charlie Clouser used the best tools available to him at the time - and that's what you should be looking to emulate if you want to be like Charlie Clouser, not the 35 year old tech he had in the photo. That I have to explain something so glaringly obvious does my head in, a bit.

[IvyBirds]

Seems like you are the one being defensive. All I did was share my opinion about crappy wannabe Nine Inch Nail ripoffs.

See, right there. Why slag off something totally irrelevant to the discussion? It makes no sense.

Because it's not irrelevant. When you got defensive of another users opinion of the M1 and Triton plugins you said

Good for what? I've never found a use for either. OTOH, I use ARP Odyssey and ARP 2600 all the time and Prophecy, PolySix and Mono/Poly get a bit of use here and there. I've tried to use Triton a few times, when I've wanted a choir or piano or something, but I always find something that's better for what I need. I wouldn't even bother with the M1, even though I owned one back in the day.

You are the one who brought up your own music and as such it's 100% relevant to the topic at hand.

When you hold yourself and your music out like you do it 100% becomes relevant

If you don't want to people to talk about your music stop bringing it up all the time

But amazing you play the victim yet again
What's really amazing is you say this

I don't value the opinions of anyone. Opinions are like arseholes - everyone has one but some stink worse than others.

But first you play the victim and say

What I find interesting, though, is how defensive you get when somebody dares to have a different opinion.

Both can't be true logically

Of course if opinions don't matter why do you care if other people like different Synths than you do? Doesn't that mean you think people should value your opinion?

[BBFG#]

What I'm most surprised at is that someone said something that got my spouse to comment. I think her last post was in a charity auction.

[BONES]

Released 52 and 53 years ago respectively.

No, smart-arse, Korg's ARP Odyssey VSTi was released in 2020 and the ARP 2600 about three months ago. You couldn't give me the hardware. As in literally, I wouldn't take it if it was offered for free. Nor would I take any software emulation that replicated it exactly, 1:1. What I like is the sound of the old synths but I like them in a shiny, new VSTi package with all mod-cons.

The bottom line is, no....one...cares....what you like or don't like.

Yet here you are, reading about it anyway.

Let people like what they want without being constantly challenged for their preferences.

What, let people get away with giving shit advice, so that somebody else goes away and spends money on the wrong thing? Yeah, what a fuckin' great bloke I'd be to do that. Because, if you bother to look, I was responding to a piece of advice given to someone who couldn't afford the whole bundle. My response was simply to ask for some insight into how that particular piece of advice was arrived at, followed by a simple exposition of which instruments in the collection I found useful and which I didn't. Go back and read it, that's exactly what it was. And isn't that exactly what this f**king place is for, to help each other out?

I don't want to keep feeding your pathological need for confrontation

I wasn't being confrontational in the slightest. As I said, go back and ready my f**king post. It was completely reasonable. Unless daring to ask someone a simple question is somehow over-stepping the mark? FFS, this place is like working in a day care centre.

[BONES]

All I am doing is sharing my opinion on a musical instrument.

No, you're not. You shared a 35 year old photo and dropped a few names. That explains nothing.

As for people getting rid of M1 Synths back in the day, I remember vividly people giving away all kinds of analog Synths to buy M1's you know the exact ones you find so valuable now.

Not really, most people had ditched their analogue synths long before the M1 was around. I sold my ESQ-M to afford my M1. The ESQ had replaced a digital CZ-101, which had itself replaced all my analogue synths - Korg Delta, Korg Mono-Poly, ARP Axxe, and a Roland SH101. I don't value old synths at all. I think they are pretty much universally worthless. I love my Korg ARP 2600 VSTi but if someone offered me a real one, I wouldn't take it. It wouldn't even be worth the effort of reselling it to make some money. Back in the day we were more than happy to sacrifice sound quality for all the advantages of digital synths. It wasn't even a consideration. It's only now that people can afford to indulge their nostalgia and make that old shit work for them.

As for old Macs they are not instruments and not really relevant to the discussion

That's a long bow, don't you think? All my instruments run in a computer, so it is reasonable to suggest that the computer is every bit a musical instrument. just like a Fairlight CMI, back in the day. And just look at how much a CMI is worth today. They are basically the same price they were in 1980. If you adjust for inflation, that's probably about one-quarter of what it originally cost. Nobody wants them.

but many people collect old computers and even use them in music production.

Yes, and many people are confined to mental asylums, what's your point?

[Dirtgrain]

This is also the typical Bones' thread degradation. He starts out serious-ish, but in old men in the balcony on The Muppet Show curmudgeon mode. He inevitably has to go into the deep end, with not enough swimming skill to be safe, necessarily. Once he puts his foot in his mouth, he shifts to troll mode, as if to say, "Ha, I wasn't really being serious about those points you made that are clearly correct--but they don't work on me when I'm in troll mode." Then he will try to out-multi-quote you, as an attempt at avoiding the cognitive dissonance at being fallible but, dammit, needing to see himself as infallible.

He could, now and then, just say, "Well, maybe a bit of what you say is true, in some way or another," and move on. But the dude needs his glory, ever trying to recapture that feeling of being #1 on some charts somewhere.

[BONES]

Again, you can't f**king put this on me, I won't f**king have it. I was being nothing but helpful when somebody decided to get stuck into me for absolutely no f**king reason, and I am sick to f**king death of it. That you dumb c**ts can't stay on topic is 100% down to you, it has f**k-all to do with me.

All that had to happen was for someone to come back and say "I use the M1 for this, this and this all the time and Triton is great for this, this and this". But no, somebody had to get their bum in their hand and feel that their ego had been bruised, even though they'd had nothing previously to do with that particular part of the thread. It was a deliberate baiting effort, with no regard at all for the purpose of this place.

[IvyBirds]

Again, you can't f**king put this on me, I won't f**king have it. I was being nothing but helpful

Only you weren't. Someone said in a thread about the Korg Collection that the M1 and Triton were nice plugins and they are

To which you said

Good for what? I've never found a use for either.

Then of course you proceeded to tell us about your lack of creativity and how you are unable to get usable sounds out of the Triton

None of that is even remotely helpful, and now you yelling and screaming and dropping profanity

It's amazing you think your embarrassing meltdown is "nothing but helpful"

[IvyBirds]

This is also the typical Bones' thread degradation. He starts out serious-ish, but in old men in the balcony on The Muppet Show curmudgeon mode. He inevitably has to go into the deep end, with not enough swimming skill to be safe, necessarily. Once he puts his foot in his mouth, he shifts to troll mode, as if to say, "Ha, I wasn't really being serious about those points you made that are clearly correct--but they don't work on me when I'm in troll mode." Then he will try to out-multi-quote you, as an attempt at avoiding the cognitive dissonance at being fallible but, dammit, needing to see himself as infallible.

He could, now and then, just say, "Well, maybe a bit of what you say is true, in some way or another," and move on. But the dude needs his glory, ever trying to recapture that feeling of being #1 on some charts somewhere.

Yep that's exactly what he does, trying to get back to the 5 minutes of fame no one cares about. What a sad existence

[JamminFool]

and... the usual players derail another thread.

[BBFG#]

I still want to know what chart he had top ten hits on. (Sincere question as I actually stopped reading them along time ago. I'm just curious.)