What Drives Your DAW - Laptop Or Desktop?

[BONES]

So yes you can sell individual parts that are not going into your new build and when it comes to the Different socket part there is usually Intel that does that and Amd has usually very long support for their new Platform before they Move to a new Socket...

Interestingly, it was AMD who used to do it to me. They'd say they were going to keep the same socket, but then not do it. This was back in the Athlon days and it really pissed me off because I chose AMD precisely because of those "promises".

[dellboy]

The main disadvantage of Windows laptops is that you cannot fully close them up when a monitor is attatched because of cooling issues.

Says who? I used to do it all the time, 12 years ago, and I daresay I live in a hotter climate than you.

I stand corrected,it can be done in Windows 11.

The setting to close the lid to use an external monitor is now in the Control Panel. I was just doing the right click on the desktop trick to change settings, and the options there are very basic.

[jens]

I stand corrected,it can be done in Windows 11.

Yes, I did that ten years ago already daily in the office - put the laptop in the docking-station, close the lid and work with a mouse and external screens instead.

[jens]

I am quite anti apple, I personally don't own anything by them and I am very happy using a desktop PC. But when I had to use windows laptops it never runs as smoothly as in Mac ones, maybe I haven't had luck with the particular laptop models but the fact is that run quite worse than my PC desktop.

Yes, I'm a total Apple hater, but I just would trust a Windows machine to do a movie-screening with it tbh... it's too easy for quasi-random interrupt to cause dropouts, no matter what machine and settings you use.

[jens]

Some of the parts you already have does also go into the new build like ram and HDD, SSD or M.2 drives and sometimes a new Cpu is the only thing you need to upgrade.

Well, actually in order for the upgrade to make much sense at all, you need to have certain performance gain (personally I find a ~50% increase to be the sweet spot)
- and with an CPU upgrade that takes some time which again means there will most likely be faster busses in the meantime too, so just changing the CPU normally doesn't make too much sense - you'll also better (i.e. to make the most out of your new purchase) get at least faster RAM and possibly faster HDs and/or even a faster GPU as well - and chances are that even if it's the same socket, your MB won't support any of these (i.e not without throttling them).

[jens]

Whilst playing Project Cars 2, Battleield 3 or 4 at 1080P at max settings, there is virtually no perceptible negative impact in game by using the Sapphire RX 570

Your metric for your system being powerful is that it can run an 11- or 13- year-old videogame at HD with almost no perceptible impact?

Sigh.

In all fairness that was in reply to me mentioning that he put a PCIe 3.0 card in a 2.0 slot.

Either way, its a bit Dunning Kruger to say that folk would consider it a 'brag' that you're running a GPU which is only slightly struggling with a 13-year-old game.

Yes, completely agreed.

[BONES]

The setting to close the lid to use an external monitor is now in the Control Panel. I was just doing the right click on the desktop trick to change settings, and the options there are very basic.

The setting was there in the first Asus Zenbook I bought, way back in 2011, presumably with Win10, although maybe still on Win8 (my favourite version of Windows).

[dellboy]

The setting to close the lid to use an external monitor is now in the Control Panel. I was just doing the right click on the desktop trick to change settings, and the options there are very basic.

The setting was there in the first Asus Zenbook I bought, way back in 2011, presumably with Win10, although maybe still on Win8 (my favourite version of Windows).

Yep, you win again.

My faulty memory thought it was still there in Windows 10. In reality The option to access the power options menu from a right click on the desktop was discontinued in Windows XP.

https://www.pcworld.com/article/485702/ ... sleep.html

[D-Fusion]

Some of the parts you already have does also go into the new build like ram and HDD, SSD or M.2 drives and sometimes a new Cpu is the only thing you need to upgrade.

Well, actually in order for the upgrade to make much sense at all, you need to have certain performance gain (personally I find a ~50% increase to be the sweet spot)
- and with an CPU upgrade that takes some time which again means there will most likely be faster busses in the meantime too, so just changing the CPU normally doesn't make too much sense - you'll also better (i.e. to make the most out of your new purchase) get at least faster RAM and possibly faster HDs and/or even a faster GPU as well - and chances are that even if it's the same socket, your MB won't support any of these (i.e not without throttling them).

I just used the Cpu change as one example or the Post would be to long and geeky on my part.
Sometimes I only need to upgrade the Motherboard to get newer features like Pcie 4 or 5 instead of the Cpu so it all depends on what needs a upgrade.

This is why i like to make my own builds so I can get the parts I want in my system and if one part breaks like for example the GPU or it is getting to slow for modern games I can easilly Replace it with a new and better one.

I also rarely upgrade unless it is needed and I agree with you when it comes to performance uplift and It has to be a significant Jump to make me build a new PC.

[jens]

Understood.

[Boudin]

Imac for programing Bitwig and Macbook air for performing live gigs : Techno music.

[Antel00p]

Built a new desktop system last week after using a laptop for 5 years and I’m astonished of the difference in performance. The “old” laptops had a 9th gen i7 and 16gb of ram so it was by no means bad, but now I’m running Bitwig projects that made the laptop go up in flames without breaking a sweat.

Tried maxing out the buffer size and sample rate on both my interface and the vst’s but I just cannot get the output to stutter or the CPU temp to pass 55 degrees Celsius. On top of that these new power supplies doesn’t even utilize their fan under low power draw so it’s 100% silent 95% of the time.

It’s super disappointing because now I have to actually make music instead of optimizing workloads etc.

Here’s the specs so none of you make the same mistake:
Lian li A3-mAtx
Corsair RM 650w
Asrock b650m PRO RS Wi-Fi
Ryzen 7 9700x, cooled by a Thermalright peerless assassin SE
Kingston 16gb DDR5 6000mhz
Gigabyte GTX 1070

[BONES]

I think you'd be surprised. I reckon the performance difference between Intel 9th Gen and 14th Gen would probably be close to double.

Yes, I'm a total Apple hater, but I just would trust a Windows machine to do a movie-screening with it tbh... it's too easy for quasi-random interrupt to cause dropouts, no matter what machine and settings you use.

Yet we've been getting up on stage with them for more than 20 years with no such issues.

Well, actually in order for the upgrade to make much sense at all, you need to have certain performance gain (personally I find a ~50% increase to be the sweet spot)

How does that work? Are you suddenly able to use it for things you couldn't previously or are you just adding power you will never use??

and with an CPU upgrade that takes some time which again means there will most likely be faster busses in the meantime too, so just changing the CPU normally doesn't make too much sense - you'll also better (i.e. to make the most out of your new purchase) get at least faster RAM and possibly faster HDs and/or even a faster GPU as well - and chances are that even if it's the same socket, your MB won't support any of these (i.e not without throttling them).

The other thing I'd say is that kind of thing made sense 15 years ago, when CPUs struggled to allow us to work but these days it is surely not as big an issue? I deliberately bought a Core i5 machine a couple of years ago - I couldn't see the point in paying extra for a Core i7 - and it was fine. In fact, my last three PC purchases have all been about form factor, not what's inside.

[dexrow]

There is no real reason why you cannot have all of your vst's on a laptop and a mobile phone... You are talking about music software always at the ready plugged in beside your bed with fl loaded onto it. What could go wrong?? keeps the IRS from asking about the free rent.

[THE INTRANCER]

I made this fun comparison video going on for 5 years ago when I swapped my old card for the new one, the RX 570.