RapidComposer v5 beta feedback and discussion

[sj1]

Separately -

I'm observing a failure to analyze chords in the MIDI import process.

IOW, an incoming file that definitely has multiple different chords in it is being analyzed and imported as nothing but C chords in the Master Track.

I think the file is a pretty normal file, but I attach it just in case.

re: the above - it may be chords are not being picked up because they are not the only MIDI track present in the example case (of which i have hundreds).

If this is the underlying current cause which such a file is dropped on the MT, I offer the suggestion that track names inside an incoming file be checked for the text "chord" (case-insensitive) and then it need not matter if more irrelevant tracks are present.

[sj1]

I'd like to note that I've recently had a dialog with another developer along the lines of getting different MIDI file output to begin with in order to accommodate the RC ingest process.

The response there was that from his POV, Track 1 should always be present because it is the "conductor track" with tempo, time sig. and other info, and therefore he is not very inclined to support deleting that track (i.e. so that the track with the chord data on it could become the only track and thus acceptable to RC).

While I'd prefer to have the flexibility to edit either side of an interop connection in order to make things work smoothly, I can only suggest and hope that at least one side will come thru!

So, given the situation, I suggest and hope that RC can take a step beyond the current situation and acquire the ability to "pluck out" and analyze chord data from a .mid file dropped on the MT even if multiple tracks are present.

3-tracks, Chords on Track 3.jpg

[lulukom]

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[lulukom]

If you haven't tried it yet, the path MIDI FIle -> Progression, Progression -> Composition might work for you. (and I have commented on how that could be even better than it already is)

Thanks, it works, but I think it should also work directly with midi files.

[sj1]

Hi.

I've made a short video of RC import behavior for 3 different MIDI files. This shows what currently happens, offering the comparison to what one hopes to have happen.


I've attached the files used in the video.

[lulukom]

Thank you very much for the video. I already started to think that I don't understand something. Yes, I just want to drag and drop midi files into the master track, but it doesn't work yet. This is exactly what we are talking about.

[sj1]

Hi.

I notice that when I drag .mid files into the Prg tab of the Browser, they always seem to arrive 1 beat short.

IOW, a 32 measure file arrives as 127 beats, instead of the appropriate 128 beats.

[lulukom]

I notice that when I drag .mid files into the Prg tab of the Browser, they always seem to arrive 1 beat short.

Yes, that's right. And in general it's very difficult to put a midi file exactly on the first beat of the master track. I feel sorry for my nerves and eyes)))

[sj1]

BTW, I notice that I can successfully drag a very large number of .mid files into the Prg Browser.

However, I cannot successfully drag a very large number of MusicXML files in. In this case RC crashes.

Also, interestingly, MusicXML drags in with the full 128 beats (for a 32 measure tune), where as the .mid version comes in with 127 beats.

It seems we are almost, but not quite there, whichever way one turns ...

[sj1]

Hi.

Sorry, it's me again!

It seems that diminished-seventh is not being detected when MusicXML is dropped on the Progression Browser.

This pic shows the result of dropping the attached MusicXML file on the Progression Browser and then creating a Composition from it.

RC - Missed Dim7.jpg

In every case in the song, dim7 chords fail to appear.

[sj1]

Hi.

As the manual shows, we can Ctrl-Alt-Shift to drag out a selected phrase as MIDI.

RC - Drag Phrase As MIDI.jpg

This works, but such a phrase arrives in Live with the track name rather than the phrase name. And if dragged to the desktop, it arrives with the name "RapidComposer-Phrases.mid".

In both these cases, I think it would be best to arrive with the Phrase name instead.

To put it another way, more generally, I think any dragged-out item should arrive with it's own name rather than some other entity's name. That way we always will know where to edit/change a name to get the desired results.

Do others feel differently?

[lulukom]

I am answering the previous post. I have it like this... Ctrl+Alt+Shift drags a midi file from a track with the track name and the same key combination drags from a phrase, but always with the same name RapidComposer Phrases. I think that there should be a name of a specific phrase here.

[musicdevelopments]

I would also like to see in the Composition window after any work-changes with a phrase a button or command Save this same phrase in the Browser as a replacement for the same place where it was in the browser and without opening the inspector and other questions and clarifications (just a replacement for the same place with new changes) Thank you.

"Save selected phrases (replace mode)" implemented, also as a keyboard shortcut. It will not ask you anything, just overwrites the phrases in the browser.
I'll build a beta version later today.

Thanks,
Attila

[musicdevelopments]

What's the roadmap to make the browser scrollable using keyboard arrows?

I have added this to my to-do list, so I hope to implement this soon. A new keyboard focus area will be added that includes the browsers.

Thanks!
Attila

[lulukom]

The emergence of a great opportunity to change the chord progression in the master track with one click via a link raises new questions and wishes. 1. Why do the already installed scales disappear? 2. Why are these scales not relevantly adapted to the new progression of the master track? 3. Why is it impossible to maintain the rhythm (length of the chords) of the replaced progression? 4. Why is there a checkbox "Change chords together with the new scale" in the scale installation window, but there is no such checkbox in the Chord Selector window "Change master scales to corresponding chords". Perhaps I do not understand some things, but I would like to hear the opinions of users. Thank you.