A very unique audio driver issue?
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- KVRer
- 9 posts since 10 Nov, 2023
Hey all,
I have a really weird issue i've been having lately when it comes to producing on the go with my laptop. So after troubleshooting with multiple different DAW's and different audio drivers in my DAW, I found that my my audio latency spikes extremely high when my laptop is not connected to the internet. The only reason I found this out was when i connect my laptop to my phones hotspot so i could look for an answer online but i couldn't find anything.
So basically if im at home, on the internet or whatever, everything works just fine.
If i'm away and I open my DAW (not connected to internet/wifi) my DAW audio is unuable
This is only in the DAW not the whole computer audio.
I've tried 3 different DAW's and I've tried the ASIO realtek, asio4all, flexasio, WASAPI, FL Asio etc and this problem persists if i'm not online
I have no clue what is causing this or how to fix it
specs:
ASUS Rog G15 - Windows 11
I normally use a Motu M2 interface at home
::UPDATE
I've tried power saving settings, no help
I've tried updating my BIOS and that didn't help,
airplane mode/turning off wifi device does not help
lantecymon says im good
I have a really weird issue i've been having lately when it comes to producing on the go with my laptop. So after troubleshooting with multiple different DAW's and different audio drivers in my DAW, I found that my my audio latency spikes extremely high when my laptop is not connected to the internet. The only reason I found this out was when i connect my laptop to my phones hotspot so i could look for an answer online but i couldn't find anything.
So basically if im at home, on the internet or whatever, everything works just fine.
If i'm away and I open my DAW (not connected to internet/wifi) my DAW audio is unuable
This is only in the DAW not the whole computer audio.
I've tried 3 different DAW's and I've tried the ASIO realtek, asio4all, flexasio, WASAPI, FL Asio etc and this problem persists if i'm not online
I have no clue what is causing this or how to fix it
specs:
ASUS Rog G15 - Windows 11
I normally use a Motu M2 interface at home
::UPDATE
I've tried power saving settings, no help
I've tried updating my BIOS and that didn't help,
airplane mode/turning off wifi device does not help
lantecymon says im good
Last edited by hotpxl on Wed Oct 16, 2024 10:20 pm, edited 1 time in total.
- KVRAF
- 16888 posts since 8 Mar, 2005 from Utrecht, Holland
Did you just switch off wifi (alike airplane mode) , or is wifi on while there is no network?
The former should work ok.
The latter will likely result in your pc obsessively wasting time in scanning for available wifi networks.
But it is possible something in the background wants to connect to the net (even when there is no net) and wasting time.
Try a so-called Latency Monitor (by Resplendence?) to figure out what process is getting in the way.
The former should work ok.
The latter will likely result in your pc obsessively wasting time in scanning for available wifi networks.
But it is possible something in the background wants to connect to the net (even when there is no net) and wasting time.
Try a so-called Latency Monitor (by Resplendence?) to figure out what process is getting in the way.
We are the KVR collective. Resistance is futile. You will be assimilated. 
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- KVRer
- Topic Starter
- 9 posts since 10 Nov, 2023
Ya I tried turning the wifi off, and airplane mode, neither works, i'll try the latency monitor thingBertKoor wrote: Wed Oct 16, 2024 9:09 pm Did you just switch off wifi (alike airplane mode) , or is wifi on while there is no network?
The former should work ok.
The latter will likely result in your pc obsessively wasting time in scanning for available wifi networks.
But it is possible something in the background wants to connect to the net (even when there is no net) and wasting time.
Try a so-called Latency Monitor (by Resplendence?) to figure out what process is getting in the way.
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- KVRer
- Topic Starter
- 9 posts since 10 Nov, 2023
Latencymon is saying my system is good to go, so idk what is causing thishotpxl wrote: Wed Oct 16, 2024 10:13 pmYa I tried turning the wifi off, and airplane mode, neither works, i'll try the latency monitor thingBertKoor wrote: Wed Oct 16, 2024 9:09 pm Did you just switch off wifi (alike airplane mode) , or is wifi on while there is no network?
The former should work ok.
The latter will likely result in your pc obsessively wasting time in scanning for available wifi networks.
But it is possible something in the background wants to connect to the net (even when there is no net) and wasting time.
Try a so-called Latency Monitor (by Resplendence?) to figure out what process is getting in the way.
- KVRAF
- 16888 posts since 8 Mar, 2005 from Utrecht, Holland
You measured with wifi switched on or off?
We are the KVR collective. Resistance is futile. You will be assimilated. 
My MusicCalc is served over https!!
My MusicCalc is served over https!!
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- KVRer
- Topic Starter
- 9 posts since 10 Nov, 2023
Yes, oddly enough the problem isn't it being on or not its having a literal connection to the internet. A friend of mine thinks something must be trying to ping online but idk what or how
- KVRAF
- 16888 posts since 8 Mar, 2005 from Utrecht, Holland
You may try a clean boot, but with the wifi switched off I had expected Respendence Latency Monitor would find a smoking gun.
We are the KVR collective. Resistance is futile. You will be assimilated. 
My MusicCalc is served over https!!
My MusicCalc is served over https!!
- KVRian
- 991 posts since 24 May, 2024
check your webcam configurations.
sometimes webcam settings mess up the whole system for latency.
be sure to check both the webcam's audio and it's video settings.
sometimes webcam settings mess up the whole system for latency.
be sure to check both the webcam's audio and it's video settings.
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- KVRer
- Topic Starter
- 9 posts since 10 Nov, 2023
I was really hoping latencymon would've helped too.BertKoor wrote: Thu Oct 17, 2024 1:18 pm You may try a clean boot, but with the wifi switched off I had expected Respendence Latency Monitor would find a smoking gun.
Clean boot didn't seem to help much either,
Same problem persists with the wifi turned off, turned it on while in a clean boot and the problem was gone, not a solution
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- KVRer
- Topic Starter
- 9 posts since 10 Nov, 2023
No dicemjolnir wrote: Thu Oct 17, 2024 7:53 pm check your webcam configurations.
sometimes webcam settings mess up the whole system for latency.
be sure to check both the webcam's audio and it's video settings.
- KVRAF
- 16888 posts since 8 Mar, 2005 from Utrecht, Holland
Just checking: you ran the Latency monitor while you do what you do when the problem kicks in?
That is: wifi turned off and you have a DAW playing a near-empty project.
That is: wifi turned off and you have a DAW playing a near-empty project.
We are the KVR collective. Resistance is futile. You will be assimilated. 
My MusicCalc is served over https!!
My MusicCalc is served over https!!
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- KVRer
- Topic Starter
- 9 posts since 10 Nov, 2023
I test with a finished full project, the audio in the daw will sound crackled and very distorted like when you have large cpu spikes, but there's no spike in cpu, the the minute I turn the wifi on and have a connection, the problem is gone. I'm not sure what to do at this point short of backing up my files and reinstalling my OSBertKoor wrote: Fri Oct 18, 2024 2:18 pm Just checking: you ran the Latency monitor while you do what you do when the problem kicks in?
That is: wifi turned off and you have a DAW playing a near-empty project.
- KVRian
- 991 posts since 24 May, 2024
definately must be one of the weirdest issues.
sorry for your loss if you have to go through reinstalling your OS
sorry for your loss if you have to go through reinstalling your OS
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- KVRer
- Topic Starter
- 9 posts since 10 Nov, 2023
It's looking like that might be my only option unfortunately..mjolnir wrote: Sat Oct 19, 2024 10:21 am definately must be one of the weirdest issues.
sorry for your loss if you have to go through reinstalling your OS
- KVRian
- 1188 posts since 21 Aug, 2017 from Brasil
Something is trying to access the internet...
With this https://www.binisoft.org/wfc you may discover.
Anyway, nothing better than a clean Windows installation.
https://schneegans.de/windows/unattend-generator/
(Do not disable UAC and do not enable WDAC policy!)
Some tweaks aimed at desktop, not good for laptop battery/temperature.
viewtopic.php?p=8820694#p8820694
With this https://www.binisoft.org/wfc you may discover.
Anyway, nothing better than a clean Windows installation.
https://schneegans.de/windows/unattend-generator/
(Do not disable UAC and do not enable WDAC policy!)
Some tweaks aimed at desktop, not good for laptop battery/temperature.
viewtopic.php?p=8820694#p8820694
