Thoughts on Ilok?

[whyterabbyt]

Preventing users from moving licenses is an iLok deliberate policy, they do it on purpose. They are willingly being a pain in the arse. That is their fault.

iLok dont prevent users from moving licenses. What they dont let users do is move a license they dont have access to, which is a wee bit different.

[AcrossTheSky]

.. I'm trying to search posts to find out how waves licenses on USB work but .. it's so much digging ..
In short > If I was to have licenses on a USB drive activated > what is the damage to the system performance on a Win 10?
btw. I had PA on a USB drive and noticed random system lagging so now I switched to the system activation. I had waves on a system for a very short time > sold whole pc and forgot to remove licenses so I lost activations etc..

Thanks in advance for any replies related to my post. THX

[hotmitts]

Preventing users from moving licenses is an iLok deliberate policy, they do it on purpose. They are willingly being a pain in the arse. That is their fault.

iLok dont prevent users from moving licenses. What they dont let users do is move a license they dont have access to, which is a wee bit different.

Hmmn...that is the worst thing about it.
If you have a crashed system (happens, mostly due to hard disc errors) and reinstall your OS, then you can't move your licenses without contacting each manufacturer for permission. Which defeats the whole point of 'all your licenses in one place' entirely ! Not fit for purpose if you ask me. Elephant in the room.

I guess the workaround is the USB thing, but USB stuff is a source of problems sometimes too and nowadays your computer can look like a porcupine with all the stuff sticking out of it.

[whyterabbyt]

I guess the workaround is the USB thing

actually the drive-based licenses are the workaround, for folk who complained about the 'USB thing.'

[hotmitts]

I guess the workaround is the USB thing

actually the drive-based licenses are the workaround, for folk who complained about the 'USB thing.'

ha and so it goes round and round

[choomaque]

iLok dont prevent users from moving licenses. What they dont let users do is move a license they dont have access to, which is a wee bit different.

No. They do prevent people from moving licenses.
For absolute majority of plugin developers that don't use iLok, having access to account = having access to licenses.
iLok disagrees and blocks you from your licenses activated on the same account but on other machine. If you sold the machine - you lost the license forever. That's pain in the arse.

Inb4 "buy dongle",
No.
I won't.
I would just avoid anything that uses iLok.

[pekbro]

I used to think like that way back, then I stopped caring at all... Ilok, no ilok, whatever...
I just use whatever plugins I want to use, regardless of whatever the dev happens to decide
they want to use for CP. IMO it's pretty safe to say that some of the best plugins available
use ilok, and anyone who avoids them because of that, is missing out...

[t.o.t.s.]

Been using ilok for decades daily without issue. on macs and pcs. it's fine.

[sQeetz]

iLok disagrees and blocks you from your licenses activated on the same account but on other machine. If you sold the machine - you lost the license forever. That's pain in the arse.

No. That's plain wrong. Before you sell the machine you simply deactivate all the licenses then you reactivate on the new machine.

[choomaque]

No. That's plain wrong. Before you sell the machine you simply deactivate all the licenses then you reactivate on the new machine.

>you simply

NO.
I don't remember and shouldn't remember. Absolute majority of developers don't create this hassle for me. iLok does.
Also what if I need to reinstall Windows on the same machine?
I just simply rather not buy anything tied to iLok.

[choomaque]

That's plain wrong.

shilling something that gave you 0 benefits to random people on the internet is plain wrong IMO

[Gamma-UT]

That's plain wrong.

shilling something that gave you 0 benefits to random people on the internet is plain wrong IMO

Informing people that deactivating iLok licences before doing any disk surgery or selling a machine entirely sounds like reasonable to me.

You just don't like the answer.

Should PACE have a mechanism for remotely deactivating a machine licence? Yes, probably. But I suspect you won't like the implications of that either or of using something like TLC.

[_leras]

No. That's plain wrong. Before you sell the machine you simply deactivate all the licenses then you reactivate on the new machine.

>you simply

NO.
I don't remember and shouldn't remember. Absolute majority of developers don't create this hassle for me. iLok does.
Also what if I need to reinstall Windows on the same machine?
I just simply rather not buy anything tied to iLok.

Then just keep the license on a dongle and you can just reinstall the software...

It's a bit of a pain for sure to have ilok, but I've literally never had any real issues with it.

There are far worse licensing systems out there.

[martinjuenke]

iLok disagrees and blocks you from your licenses activated on the same account but on other machine. If you sold the machine - you lost the license forever. That's pain in the arse.

Fake news.
Either user error or malicious intent.

[choomaque]

Informing people that deactivating iLok licences before doing any disk surgery or selling a machine entirely sounds like reasonable to me.

sounds like extra hassle to me, which, again, plugin manufacturers that don't use iLok, don't have

Should PACE have a mechanism…

I don't have any suggestions. I am advocating for boycotting iLok.