RapidComposer v5 beta feedback and discussion

[sj1]

Hi.

Working with CCs in RC, I'm finding that CCs are sent when I did not ask for them to be sent.

For example, here I have placed 3 CCs :

RC - CCs Resent at Start of Loop 02.jpg

Well, they do go out when encountered on playback (as expected), but they also go out:

1. At the start of composition playback (not desired)
2. At the restart of every loop cycle (not desired)

AFAICT, there is no way for me to influence this. But as it is, I cannot achieve what I'm aiming for (specific, timed downstream control of external stuff).

Perhaps the existing behavior is needed by others (?). If not, the behavior could simply be changed. But if so, could some sort of option be provided to the effect of "Send CCs exactly and only as specified"?

Thanks.

P.S. And what actually happens at the beginning is that the last one goes out, rather than the first one. This is controller chasing, I suppose, but it's not something that is appropriate for every situation. The right action in my case would be for the first CC, all the way to the far left, to be emitted some designated amount of time before the rest of the playback begins. Or, allow to have a pickup bar prior to the actual bar 1, and I would place it somewhere in the pickup bar. Downstream actually manages the barline, it just needs to be told to do so ahead of the barline.

[sj1]

Here is a file that can be loaded for experiments w/o having to recreate the CC lane setup.

[thebutler]

Hi @sj1 - the CC events 'chase events' mechanism is naturally well needed; but perhaps more so in the strict DAW world.? I don't know... need more input from others and Attila for different views on their use/role in RC...

However, that first-play scenario you note is odd..! If you see the 'last' CC event appear out of sequence as it were, ahead of the actual first CC encountered, then for me that is definitely something for closer scrutiny.

Finally just to note, in my DAW there's an option in preferences to disable 'chase events' if desired. But this is a global condition only (default is 'on') - and I can't remember the last time I ever needed to touch this to turn it off..! Which says more about me and my 'limited' midi use (much more of a 'live audio' focus here).

[sj1]

Hi.

I'm observing that data is being deleted by the Split operation.

Here is video to show it:


File attached.

[BluGenes]

So, I had another, I think, cool idea. I know it would work too, as I kind of did this myself, with my own software.

But, I think if RC had the ability to generate AI midi based on a specific production VST instrument of the users choice, well, that would be really cool.

The way it would work is, you supply a PDF of the instrument to the AI and that becomes the "rules" for the AI to follow. So, it would generate everything for the constraints of that instrument, like the CC or key witches it would use.

Now, I have no clue on how accurate it would be, of course, but, it might be worth testing that idea..

anyways.. just one of those silly ideas I come with now and then.. lol

[musicdevelopments]

Previously mentioned in the thread, maybe already on the list, but just a reminder -

This structural Part/Line functionality:
still only operates for MIDI file import.

Equivalent structural Part/Line creation functionality is much to be desired when we do 'Create composition from progressions'.

Good news! In the new beta version (either today or tomorrow) a global "set up structure" dialog is available with keyboard shortcut 'E', or in the structure and master track inspectors. With 2-3 clicks you can set any structure without affecting existing tracks, phrases or chrods. This is a simple and quick solution, so don't expect 3D animated graphics of verses and lines

Thanks,
Attila

[musicdevelopments]

I'll add) The phrase is not dragged as a midi file with its own name, the whole track - yes!

Thanks, this is fixed in the next beta version.

[musicdevelopments]

A minor point to be sure, but I would suggest adding "Export phrases from selected track as MIDI..." to the Track menu.

Yes, of course, it is added now.

And if it is reasonably possible to arrange for a direct drag-and-drop onto Live that would be just absolutely ideal, IMO.

Direct drag-and-drop to Live works for single phrases. The dragged MIDI is named according to the phrase name, so I hope all MIDI track/title naming issues are fixed now.

Thanks,
Attila

[musicdevelopments]

instantly transform the master track chords from triads into 7/9/11/13 types of chords and vice versa from any type to any.

Good idea! Transformations of that sort are definitely very convenient to have.

This is indeed a great idea. I was thinking of some master track chords processing, but I want to keep it simple.

Thanks!
Attila

[musicdevelopments]

Hey.. I think when using this dialog that the next and previous shown should have those buttons assigned to the keyboard left and right arrows... (I never looked to see if there was already a shortcut, so, maybe we can do that already! lol..) But in any case, that should be set up like that if it's not..

Hi BluGenes,

you can use the keyboard left and right arrows to select the previous/next chord, but ONLY if you have the master track in keyboard focus. All keyboard events are handled by the main window so you can use them even when the chord palette is open.

Thanks,
Attila

[BluGenes]

But, once you click the chord selector, .e.g., click a chord in lets say the circle of 5ths, you lose key board focus and those keys don't work..

[musicdevelopments]

I'm observing that data is being deleted by the Split operation.

Here is video to show it:

Hi Steve,

many thanks for the video and the file attached! It turned out, when track transposition was applied, it caused problems when either splitting phrases or "rendering phrases with variations". In the end the track transposition was applied twice, even though the rendered notes already reflected the transposition. I managed to add a fix, which works well when a single transposition is used (as opposed to using an envelope for track transposition which may use a different transposition for each note). This will be properly fixed in the long run.

Thanks,
Attila

[musicdevelopments]

But, once you click the chord selector, .e.g., click a chord in lets say the circle of 5ths, you lose key board focus and those keys don't work..

Do you use the VST3 plug-in perhaps? Because in the standalone version on Windows I could not make it loose the keyboard focus, wherever I clicked in the chord selector.

[Jrmuzik]

We all would like to plan and implement some kind of triggering or launch mode?

Idea is that we could preload phrases on the midi keys and trigger them live (w/ different triggering modes) to play along with the compositions chord progression? We could take it one step further and maybe have the ability to preload chord progressions to some midi keys. Once we like a phrase, we can record it in live.

Goal: To allow creative, inspiring and fast sampling of different combinations of phrases.

[lulukom]

Yes, get your favorite phrases and record them on the keyboard keys, then insert them during recording in real time, then save them as a keyboard set with midi samples. Great idea! But I miss the choice of Takes on the tracks.